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<DIV><SPAN class=220070301-18072003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Instead of hardwood torque blocks inside the wing, I bend the music
wire gear back towards the trailing edge. Nothing goes up into the wing -
nothing to break loose inside the foam cores to result in wobbly
gear. The music wire simply lays flush with the wing skins (along grooved
Sig hardwood landing gear blocks installed). </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=220070301-18072003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Kurt</FONT> </SPAN><BR></DIV>
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face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
discussion-request@nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org] <B>On
Behalf Of </B>Bruce & Sandy<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, July 17, 2003 4:01
PM<BR><B>To:</B> discussion@nsrca.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: fixed gear vs.
retracts<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Jeff Hughes has a neat installation on his
Jupiter, like the Sig Kougar uses (and others I imagine). Torque blocks
in the wing and a wire gear. Maybe he could give some details on torque
block installation and landing gear wire size, etc. He told me about
it at the D4 and D5 shootout.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>By the way Jeff, I have just about finished
the re-installation of the fuse mounted fixed gear in the Finesse. 3
times I have knocked it off. I think the next fixed gear will be wing
mounted like your Jupiter.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Bruce</FONT></DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=wgalligan@goodsonacura.com
href="mailto:wgalligan@goodsonacura.com">Wayne Galligan</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, July 17, 2003 4:04
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: fixed gear vs.
retracts</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Nats airplane only wieghts about 8lbs and is
powered by a .91 size engine. The l.g. struts come out of the wing
much like a torsion bar type l.g. I am not sure how it is mounted in
the wing though. It is however a rather novel idea. His stuff is
on the edge in design and asthetics but it really flies good.
The "Vodoo Magic" flown by Todd Blose would do everything in the book
you could throw at it.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Wayne G.</FONT></DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=scully01@cvtv.net href="mailto:scully01@cvtv.net">calvin
scully</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, July 17, 2003 1:53
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: fixed gear vs.
retracts</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Would like to see detail of how Nat Penton
uses CF rods to accomodate a 10 to 11 lb model airplane. Like Mr. Ferrell
I am interested.</FONT></DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=johnferrell@earthlink.net
href="mailto:johnferrell@earthlink.net">John Ferrell</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, July 17, 2003 10:56
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: fixed gear vs.
retracts</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Keep the articles coming!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>If you have a pointer to a picture of the
Carbon tubing gear I am sure I am not the only one
interested.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I am in total agreement that it is better
to make our planes serviceable rather than indestructible!</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>John Ferrell <BR>6241 Phillippi Rd<BR>Julian NC 27283<BR>Phone:
(336)685-9606 <BR><A
href="mailto:johnferrell@earthlink.net">johnferrell@earthlink.net</A><BR>Dixie
Competition Products<BR>NSRCA 479 AMA 4190 W8CCW<BR>"My
Competition is Not My Enemy"<BR></DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=Rcmaster199@aol.com
href="mailto:Rcmaster199@aol.com">Rcmaster199@aol.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July 16, 2003
8:39 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: fixed gear vs.
retracts</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT lang=0 face=Arial
size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">The composite fixed gear designs of today
are quite the overkill in terms of strength, rigidity and weight. They
could be made far lighter, less rigid and cheaply enough where, as
they break on a hard landing, simply pull the pieces out and toss
them. <BR><BR>My good friend Nat Penton is using regular carbon tubing
material for the struts, and uses a short piece of aluminum rod
epoxied in the tube, to serve as wheel axle. A quick wrapping of
kevlar thread, super glued on the carbon tube where the axle in
epoxied, keeps the tube intact.<BR><BR>He is reporting that the struts
weigh in at less than 1 oz for both, with the farings installed to a
fully airfoiled section, without the wheels. The length is 10
inches.<BR><BR>Matt<BR><BR>PS- I prefer retracts to fixed gear for
pattern planes except they are too heavyat around 6 ozs sans wheels.
<BR><BR>My composite gear that I make, come in at about 4 ozs with
pants, for the pair, sans wheels, but will be using Nat's technique to
reduce the weight further with little compromise in strength. I'll
probably write about it for the KF. If you have been following my
writings you should have learned that I have been keeping no
secrets.<BR><BR><BR></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></BODY></HTML>