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<DIV><FONT size=2>Right on Marty! If you "go back" even BEFORE (and
possibly at the same time as) "the good ole all balsa, 60 size Dirty Birdy"
you will find Phil Kraft's fixed-gear Stagger-By bipe, and Hal Debolt's bipes if
I remember the time line and bipes correctly. Where are these could-have-been
pattern trend setting designs now? Darwinism at work? </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Here in Tullahoma, TN we have a bit of full scale
biplane history. Check out: <A
href="http://www.staggerwing.com/">http://www.staggerwing.com/</A> </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>For information about <FONT size=3>the 30th Anniversary
of our Museum see <A
href="http://www.staggerwing.com/events/beech_party_2003/">Beech Party 2003</A>
scheduled for October 15-19, 2003.</FONT> </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Chuck</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=aerobatx@bellsouth.net href="mailto:aerobatx@bellsouth.net">Marty
Pizzitola</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, July 18, 2003 9:04 AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: The next thing -
Biplanes???</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Very well stated !!!!! The world of pattern
changes too fast for most average pilots. A few set trends and the rest
follow. Many changes are not always for the better. THe cost to keep up with
the Jone's has become unreachable for many. This is not the first wave of
Bipes to hit the world of pattern and it probably won't be the last. I am
waiting for the few who set the trends to decide that the fat body, biplane,
fixed gear, digitalized pcm, EFI , and carbon fuse planes of today are not the
perfect flying machines, and go back to the good ole all balsa, 60 size Dirty
Birdy .</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Bottom line is; it's not what you fly, but how
you fly it. </FONT></DIV>
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<A title=Rcmaster199@aol.com
href="mailto:Rcmaster199@aol.com">Rcmaster199@aol.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, July 17, 2003 6:15
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: The next thing -
Biplanes???</DIV>
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FAMILY="SANSSERIF">I predict that Bipes are NOT the next big thing for Joe
Average. Of course, there is no pattern flier I know who considers himself
Joe Average, SOOOOO, yes many will likely flock to them. But there are very
few who are skilled enough to set them up correctly . In today's ARF
and barf world of pattern, patience and building skill are becoming quite
scarce. For most of us, working a monoplane into submission is tough work,
let alone trying to figger out a new type of platform, with all its
complexity, like the Bipe.<BR><BR>Having said that, Chip flew his DV great
at the Team Selection. Kenny Lauter also. But these guys are on the upper
echelon of competition in this country. <BR><BR>BTW, Bob Noll told me at the
TS contest that CPLR is not very happy with his bipe. It will be interesting
to see if he campaigns it at the Worlds.<BR><BR>Matt<BR><BR>
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TYPE="CITE">Subj:<B>Re: The next thing - Biplanes???
</B><BR>Date:7/17/2003 8:45:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time<BR>From:<A
href="mailto:rwantz2@comcast.net">rwantz2@comcast.net</A><BR>Reply-to:<A
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A><BR>To:<A
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A><BR><I>Sent
from the Internet </I><BR><BR><BR><BR>However, monoplane wins
NATS.<BR><BR>----- Original Message ----- <BR>From: "Rodney Tanner"
<rodney19821982@yahoo.com><BR>To: "NSRCA"
<discussion@nsrca.org><BR>Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 4:29
PM<BR>Subject: The next thing - Biplanes???<BR><BR><BR>>
Interesting:<BR>> Chip wins the TOC, with his big Ultimate biplane.
Dean<BR>> Pappas discusses biplanes in his July column in
Flying<BR>> Models, saying the only thing they lacked before
was<BR>> power and that is no longer an issue. (Apparently CPL<BR>>
has a biper too. . )<BR>> Chip wins the team sellection trials (report
in latest<BR>> KF)<BR>> Then we hear about Chips stormin comeback,
this week,<BR>> at the Nats, with the Biplane again. <BR>> Things
could get very interesting at the World Champs<BR>> in Poland. . .
<BR>> <BR>> Rodney</BLOCKQUOTE>
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