<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
<HTML><HEAD>
<META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">
<META content="MSHTML 6.00.2722.900" name=GENERATOR>
<STYLE></STYLE>
</HEAD>
<BODY bgColor=#ffffff>
<DIV>Another problem for the more mortal builders among us is the weight. Chip's
plane was right on the edge both times I weighed it. Dave said he could wipe off
another ounce of residue if needed!</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Terry T.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 14:26:38 -0500 "Lance Van Nostrand" <<A
href="mailto:patterndude@comcast.net">patterndude@comcast.net</A>>
writes:</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr
style="PADDING-LEFT: 10px; MARGIN-LEFT: 10px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid">
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Chip has lost 3 of his 4 Double Vision Bipes
because wings or stabs flew off during flight. I don't think material
science is quite up to making all of this surface area strong enough for the
average anyone that can only buy one or two planes a year.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> Chip yelled at Mike McConville (test
flying Villwock's bipe) to slow it down when he went to high throttle on a
horizontal. Chip also elected to skip the windy round on Tuesday
morning.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>For Chip, its a great attraction and fits his
style. For the rest of us, it's not ready yet.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Just my humble O.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>--Lance</FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr
style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=aerobatx@bellsouth.net href="mailto:aerobatx@bellsouth.net">Marty
Pizzitola</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, July 18, 2003 9:04
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: The next thing -
Biplanes???</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Very well stated !!!!! The world of pattern
changes too fast for most average pilots. A few set trends and the rest
follow. Many changes are not always for the better. THe cost to keep up with
the Jone's has become unreachable for many. This is not the first wave of
Bipes to hit the world of pattern and it probably won't be the last. I am
waiting for the few who set the trends to decide that the fat body, biplane,
fixed gear, digitalized pcm, EFI , and carbon fuse planes of today are not
the perfect flying machines, and go back to the good ole all balsa, 60 size
Dirty Birdy .</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Bottom line is; it's not what you fly, but how
you fly it. </FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE
style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=Rcmaster199@aol.com
href="mailto:Rcmaster199@aol.com">Rcmaster199@aol.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, July 17, 2003 6:15
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: The next thing -
Biplanes???</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT lang=0 face=Arial size=2
FAMILY="SANSSERIF">I predict that Bipes are NOT the next big thing for Joe
Average. Of course, there is no pattern flier I know who considers himself
Joe Average, SOOOOO, yes many will likely flock to them. But there are
very few who are skilled enough to set them up correctly . In
today's ARF and barf world of pattern, patience and building skill are
becoming quite scarce. For most of us, working a monoplane into submission
is tough work, let alone trying to figger out a new type of platform, with
all its complexity, like the Bipe.<BR><BR>Having said that, Chip flew his
DV great at the Team Selection. Kenny Lauter also. But these guys are on
the upper echelon of competition in this country. <BR><BR>BTW, Bob Noll
told me at the TS contest that CPLR is not very happy with his bipe. It
will be interesting to see if he campaigns it at the
Worlds.<BR><BR>Matt<BR><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE
style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"
TYPE="CITE">Subj:<B>Re: The next thing - Biplanes???
</B><BR>Date:7/17/2003 8:45:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time<BR>From:<A
href="mailto:rwantz2@comcast.net">rwantz2@comcast.net</A><BR>Reply-to:<A
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A><BR>To:<A
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A><BR><I>Sent
from the Internet </I><BR><BR><BR><BR>However, monoplane wins
NATS.<BR><BR>----- Original Message ----- <BR>From: "Rodney Tanner"
<rodney19821982@yahoo.com><BR>To: "NSRCA"
<discussion@nsrca.org><BR>Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 4:29
PM<BR>Subject: The next thing - Biplanes???<BR><BR><BR>>
Interesting:<BR>> Chip wins the TOC, with his big Ultimate biplane.
Dean<BR>> Pappas discusses biplanes in his July column in
Flying<BR>> Models, saying the only thing they lacked before
was<BR>> power and that is no longer an issue. (Apparently
CPL<BR>> has a biper too. . )<BR>> Chip wins the team sellection
trials (report in latest<BR>> KF)<BR>> Then we hear about Chips
stormin comeback, this week,<BR>> at the Nats, with the Biplane
again. <BR>> Things could get very interesting at the World
Champs<BR>> in Poland. . . <BR>> <BR>>
Rodney</BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></FONT>
<DIV> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>