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<DIV><SPAN class=482261309-19072003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Yes my
fault for even mentioning weight as well. For some people, the discussion of
weight on a pattern plane elicits the same response as saying they're are bad
drivers (everyone's a good driver)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=482261309-19072003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
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<DIV><SPAN class=482261309-19072003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>The
point I was merely trying to make is that most of the HydeAways built are
reported to be sub 10lbs. HOWEVER, these have been built from kits sourced
direct from the manufacturer and are not the standard offerings available in the
US.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=482261309-19072003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=482261309-19072003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>My
comments were in no way a criticism of the build quality employed in yours or
any others. It's a real shame people only read what they want to
read. My comments were real ymeant to show my surprise that the weights of
the kits should be quite so different. As I said, no offence
intended.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=482261309-19072003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>rgds</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> discussion-request@nsrca.org
[mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Dave & Sue
Funk<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, July 19, 2003 12:15 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
discussion@nsrca.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Hydeaway Maiden
Flight<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Nick my post last night was to pay thanks to
those that helped me with my Hydeaway. I am sooooo sorry that I included the
weigh MY FAULT. I should have known that it would draw a negative response. I
only wanted to say thanks. The only thing that really maters is the plane is
legal weight and it seems to fly really good</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Dave</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=middletn@spinmail.com href="mailto:middletn@spinmail.com">Nik
Middleton</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, July 18, 2003 6:18
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: Hydeaway Maiden
Flight</DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=697410822-18072003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Not so, there is a third option as I said, composite fuz,
CF internals and foam cores, and believe me it's a HydeAway all
right!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=697410822-18072003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=697410822-18072003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>rgds</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=697410822-18072003></SPAN> </DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> <A
href="mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org">discussion-request@nsrca.org</A>
[mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Ed
Miller<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, July 18, 2003 9:18 PM<BR><B>To:</B> <A
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A><BR><B>Subject:</B>
Re: Hydeaway Maiden Flight<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I think you are refering to the HydeOut. To
the best of my knowledge the HydeAway was offered 2 ways, semi ARC with
sheeting on flying surfaces done and a composite fuse by ZN line. The
second version was all wood built up from Japan, very light and high
quality. I knew of one here on the east coast that blew apart in flight.
The HydeOut is substantially smaller than the HydeAway.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I've spent many hours weighing componets,
hardware and taking weights during construction while building my soon to
be finished EMC2. I also recorded some of this information on Dave's
HydeAway. I hope to share this information as an article in the KFactor
later this year. Like the tachs that have a built in 500 rpm head start,
there seems to be an abundance of scales that start at minus numbers or
defy gravity.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ed M.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=middletn@spinmail.com href="mailto:middletn@spinmail.com">Nik
Middleton</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, July 18, 2003 8:22
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: Hydeaway Maiden
Flight</DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=224201812-18072003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Sorry, not knocking the build quality here at all. However,
there are two types of kits, the ones that are fairly well finished,
i.e. wings skinned etc, and the base kits where you simply get the foam
cores, carbon fiber wing tubes, formers etc.i.e no wood apart from gear
mounting plate. Which one was yours?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=224201812-18072003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=224201812-18072003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>rgds</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=224201812-18072003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
discussion-request@nsrca.org
[mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Dave &
Sue Funk<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, July 18, 2003 11:46 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
discussion@nsrca.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Hydeaway Maiden
Flight<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I would like to see one that is at 9.5lbs
on a scale in person. This kit was built as lite as I could not only
that but have a OS140rx that has shed 2oz through mod's The only thing
that ads some extra weight is I used a bladder tank.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=middletn@spinmail.com
href="mailto:middletn@spinmail.com">Nik Middleton</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, July 18, 2003
5:28 AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: Hydeaway Maiden
Flight</DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=931402609-18072003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Sounds like it's a great flying plane, but I was a little
surprised at the weight. 9.5lbs seems to be the norm for this
one. Still I personally like them a bit heavy, better in
wind.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=931402609-18072003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=931402609-18072003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>rgds</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=931402609-18072003></SPAN> </DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> <A
href="mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org">discussion-request@nsrca.org</A>
[mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Dave
& Sue Funk<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, July 18, 2003 2:51
AM<BR><B>To:</B> discussion@nsrca.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Hydeaway
Maiden Flight<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> I just
got back from putting the maiden flight on my Hydeaway.I would
like to thank Ed Miller for driving the hour and a half to stand
by my side during this event. He is also the person who did the
beautiful paint job. I would also like to thank Lance Robins for
the graphics and I would especially like to thank Troy Newman for
all the help and advice during the building process.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> With a click here
and a twik there the plane flew great! Dry weight, ready to fly,
10 lbs 3.2 oz's. \</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Dave</FONT></DIV>
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