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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=810213722-21072003>Bob,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=810213722-21072003>Yes,
where the strut meets the wing, I bend the wire 90 degrees towards the
fuselage. After 5-6", I bend 90 degrees back to the trailing edge for a
few more inches. Landing gear straps are used every couple of
inches. I've had some clean separations from not so clean landings in the
dirt. Not sure if my description makes any sense.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=810213722-21072003>Kurt </SPAN></FONT></DIV><BR>
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face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
discussion-request@nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org] <B>On
Behalf Of </B>Bob Pastorello<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, July 21, 2003 4:05
PM<BR><B>To:</B> discussion@nsrca.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: fixed gear vs.
retracts<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Kurt - do you bend a 90 or some other angle
perpendicular to the chord-wise bend for side load?</FONT></DIV><FONT
face=Arial size=2>
<DIV><BR>Bob Pastorello, Oklahoma<BR>NSRCA 199, IMAC 1320, AMA 46373<BR><A
href="mailto:rcaerobob@cox.net">rcaerobob@cox.net</A><BR><A
href="http://www.rcaerobats.net">www.rcaerobats.net</A></DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=kurt@bozarthhomes.com href="mailto:kurt@bozarthhomes.com">Kurt
Bozarth</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, July 17, 2003 8:08
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: fixed gear vs.
retracts</DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=220070301-18072003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Instead of hardwood torque blocks inside the wing, I bend the
music wire gear back towards the trailing edge. Nothing goes up into
the wing - nothing to break loose inside the foam cores to result in
wobbly gear. The music wire simply lays flush with the wing skins
(along grooved Sig hardwood landing gear blocks
installed). </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=220070301-18072003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Kurt</FONT> </SPAN><BR></DIV>
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face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
discussion-request@nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org] <B>On
Behalf Of </B>Bruce & Sandy<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, July 17, 2003
4:01 PM<BR><B>To:</B> discussion@nsrca.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: fixed
gear vs. retracts<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Jeff Hughes has a neat installation on his
Jupiter, like the Sig Kougar uses (and others I imagine). Torque
blocks in the wing and a wire gear. Maybe he could give some details
on torque block installation and landing gear wire size, etc. He
told me about it at the D4 and D5 shootout.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>By the way Jeff, I have just about
finished the re-installation of the fuse mounted fixed gear in the
Finesse. 3 times I have knocked it off. I think the next fixed
gear will be wing mounted like your Jupiter.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Bruce</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=wgalligan@goodsonacura.com
href="mailto:wgalligan@goodsonacura.com">Wayne Galligan</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, July 17, 2003 4:04
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: fixed gear vs.
retracts</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Nats airplane only wieghts about 8lbs and
is powered by a .91 size engine. The l.g. struts come out of the
wing much like a torsion bar type l.g. I am not sure how it is
mounted in the wing though. It is however a rather novel
idea. His stuff is on the edge in design and asthetics but it
really flies good. The "Vodoo Magic" flown by Todd
Blose would do everything in the book you could throw at
it.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Wayne G.</FONT></DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=scully01@cvtv.net href="mailto:scully01@cvtv.net">calvin
scully</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, July 17, 2003
1:53 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: fixed gear vs.
retracts</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Would like to see detail of how Nat
Penton uses CF rods to accomodate a 10 to 11 lb model airplane. Like
Mr. Ferrell I am interested.</FONT></DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=johnferrell@earthlink.net
href="mailto:johnferrell@earthlink.net">John Ferrell</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, July 17, 2003
10:56 AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: fixed gear vs.
retracts</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Keep the articles coming!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>If you have a pointer to a picture of
the Carbon tubing gear I am sure I am not the only one
interested.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I am in total agreement that it is
better to make our planes serviceable rather than
indestructible!</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>John Ferrell <BR>6241 Phillippi Rd<BR>Julian NC 27283<BR>Phone:
(336)685-9606 <BR><A
href="mailto:johnferrell@earthlink.net">johnferrell@earthlink.net</A><BR>Dixie
Competition Products<BR>NSRCA 479 AMA 4190 W8CCW<BR>"My
Competition is Not My Enemy"<BR></DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=Rcmaster199@aol.com
href="mailto:Rcmaster199@aol.com">Rcmaster199@aol.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July 16,
2003 8:39 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: fixed gear vs.
retracts</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT lang=0 face=Arial
size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">The composite fixed gear designs of
today are quite the overkill in terms of strength, rigidity and
weight. They could be made far lighter, less rigid and cheaply
enough where, as they break on a hard landing, simply pull the
pieces out and toss them. <BR><BR>My good friend Nat Penton is
using regular carbon tubing material for the struts, and uses a
short piece of aluminum rod epoxied in the tube, to serve as wheel
axle. A quick wrapping of kevlar thread, super glued on the carbon
tube where the axle in epoxied, keeps the tube intact.<BR><BR>He
is reporting that the struts weigh in at less than 1 oz for both,
with the farings installed to a fully airfoiled section, without
the wheels. The length is 10 inches.<BR><BR>Matt<BR><BR>PS- I
prefer retracts to fixed gear for pattern planes except they are
too heavyat around 6 ozs sans wheels. <BR><BR>My composite gear
that I make, come in at about 4 ozs with pants, for the pair, sans
wheels, but will be using Nat's technique to reduce the weight
further with little compromise in strength. I'll probably write
about it for the KF. If you have been following my writings you
should have learned that I have been keeping no
secrets.<BR><BR><BR></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></BODY></HTML>