<HTML><BODY STYLE="font:10pt verdana; border:none;"><DIV>Allen</DIV> <DIV> Thanks for the comments.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Jim Ivey </DIV> <DIV>SPA 82</DIV> <DIV>NSRCA 2724</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial">----- Original Message -----</DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt Arial; COLOR: black"><B>From:</B> AWorrest@aol.com</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, July 28, 2003 4:54 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>To:</B> discussion@nsrca.org</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: NEW CLASS for experienced pilots.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT size=2>Five years ago, pattern was dead in Nebraska outside of Omaha. One time before we switched to the SPA schedule, we had only three entrees in a club AMA pattern contest. ( I must add that the day started out with rain.) Yesterday we had sixteen contestants in the Lincoln Pattern contest and it was raining when the contest started. Two other communities held similar pattern events earlier in the year. There is talk that a fourth will be held in October. Pattern is making a comeback in this part of the country even if it is not AMA pattern. <BR><BR>The fly-by format of the SPA schedule makes it much easier to perform a difficult maneuver than the AMA turn-around style. The SPA maneuvers for the Expert class are not individually easy. They were taken from the 70's AMA Master/Expert schedules. Maybe it is due to my age, I find flying the SPA Expert class to be more enjoyable than the AMA Advanced. It is not a vision thing; the SPA format is just more relaxed. I get a chance to take a deep breath after each flubbed maneuver. <BR><BR>We have no restrictions on the aircraft entered in our contest other than the plane can be maneuvered safely. I am beginning to think that the new, 2-meter, wide body designs have an advantage. This is not a trend I would encourage. The SPA maneuvers can be flown successfully with a less expensive aircraft. Possibly, just not as well. If there is a new class, I would recommend that the SPA schedule be flown and the only restrictions on the aircraft be the SPA restrictions on the engine. That is for a 2-cycle, the maximum displacement is .60 and a muffler is used. For a 4-cycle the engine, it is restricted to a .90 or below and no super charging. <BR><BR>Allan Worrest <BR><BR>In a message dated 7/28/2003 9:36:43 AM Central Daylight Time, Eric.Henderson@gartner.com writes: <BR><BR></FONT><FONT lang=0 face=Arial color=#505050 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><BR></FONT><FONT lang=0 face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" TYPE="CITE">After several long "fireside chats" a similar non-turnaround thought pattern came up about over 55's having a non-turnaround class.</FONT><FONT lang=0 face=Arial color=#505050 size=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"> <BR><BR></FONT><FONT lang=0 face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">Complex center maneuvers (e.g. easier to see) for the old guys but non-scored turnarounds. Keep it to say, 10 maneuvers. Would make judging a lot easier. Could retain more pattern pilots as they age!? (Even CD's :-))</FONT><FONT lang=0 face=Arial color=#505050 size=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"> <BR><BR></FONT><FONT lang=0 face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">Lest we not forget our biggest challenge is numbers of participants. As a % of RC pilots we are a decimal point! That scares me. Not enough youth and then we have the "silverbacks" giving up because the routines stretch their vision on turnaround maneuvers.</FONT><FONT lang=0 face=Arial color=#505050 size=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"> <BR><BR></FONT><FONT lang=0 face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">If it was not for the noise problem of the older designs I'd also run SPA at a 401-406 pattern event.</FONT><FONT lang=0 face=Arial color=#505050 size=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"> <BR><BR></FONT><FONT lang=0 face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">Regards,</FONT><FONT lang=0 face=Arial color=#505050 size=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"> <BR><BR></FONT><FONT lang=0 face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">Eric</FONT><FONT lang=0 face=Arial color=#505050 size=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR></FONT><FONT lang=0 face=Arial color=#000000 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><BR></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></BODY></HTML>