<HTML><BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff" STYLE="font:10pt verdana; border:none;background-color:#ffffff; "><DIV> NOT touchin' that one.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Jim I</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial">----- Original Message -----</DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt Arial; COLOR: black"><B>From:</B> Bill Glaze</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, July 28, 2003 3:45 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>To:</B> discussion@nsrca.org</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: NEW CLASS for experienced pilots.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV>I'm over 70. Eric has already told me what he intends to do with me!<VBG> <P>Bill Glaze <P>jim ivey wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE="CITE">EricI'm over 60. What you gonna do with Me? Jim Ivey <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial">----- Original Message -----</DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt Arial; COLOR: black"><B>From:</B> Henderson,Eric</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, July 28, 2003 1:52 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>To:</B> discussion@nsrca.org</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: NEW CLASS for experienced pilots.</DIV> <STYLE></STYLE> <SPAN class=446555117-28072003><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=-1>Maybe one SPA class for over 55's with mixed planes....</FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=446555117-28072003></SPAN><SPAN class=446555117-28072003></SPAN> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=-1>-----Original Message-----</FONT></FONT> <BR><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=-1><B>From:</B> discussion-request@nsrca.org [<A href="mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org">mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org</A>]<B>On Behalf Of </B>GW</FONT></FONT> <BR><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=-1><B>Sent:</B> Monday, July 28, 2003 1:51 PM</FONT></FONT> <BR><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=-1><B>To:</B> discussion@nsrca.org</FONT></FONT> <BR><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=-1><B>Subject:</B> Re: NEW CLASS for experienced pilots.</FONT></FONT> <BR> </DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=-1>great idea. SPA style planes(older designs-<FONT color=#0000ff>Nostalgia-Pattern) </FONT> mixed into AMA pattern.</FONT></FONT><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=-1>That will raise attendance and promote growth.</FONT></FONT> GW <BR>Gerald Williams <BR>Email : <A href="mailto:gw@gwair.com">gw@gwair.com</A> <BR>Webpage: <A href="http://www.gwair.com/">www.gwair.com</A> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----</DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=Eric.Henderson@gartner.com href="mailto:Eric.Henderson@gartner.com">Henderson,Eric</A></DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A></DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, July 28, 2003 9:45 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: NEW CLASS for experienced pilots.</DIV> <SPAN class=293194514-28072003><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=-1>I like suggestions - good one Dean!</FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=293194514-28072003></SPAN><SPAN class=293194514-28072003><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=-1>E.</FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=293194514-28072003></SPAN><SPAN class=293194514-28072003></SPAN> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=-1>-----Original Message-----</FONT></FONT> <BR><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=-1><B>From:</B> <A href="mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org">discussion-request@nsrca.org</A> [<A href="mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org">mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org</A>]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Dean Pappas</FONT></FONT> <BR><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=-1><B>Sent:</B> Monday, July 28, 2003 10:41 AM</FONT></FONT> <BR><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=-1><B>To:</B> <A href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A></FONT></FONT> <BR><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=-1><B>Subject:</B> RE: NEW CLASS for experienced pilots.</FONT></FONT> <BR> </DIV><SPAN class=013463914-28072003><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=-1>Why not add noise-limited Nostalgia-Pattern at our events?</FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=013463914-28072003><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=-1>Regards,</FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=013463914-28072003> <FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=-1>Dean</FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=-1>-----Original Message-----</FONT></FONT> <BR><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=-1><B>From:</B> Henderson,Eric [<A href="mailto:Eric.Henderson@gartner.com">mailto:Eric.Henderson@gartner.com</A>]</FONT></FONT> <BR><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=-1><B>Sent:</B> Monday, July 28, 2003 10:35 AM</FONT></FONT> <BR><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=-1><B>To:</B> discussion@nsrca.org</FONT></FONT> <BR><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=-1><B>Subject:</B> NEW CLASS for experienced pilots.</FONT></FONT> <BR> </DIV><SPAN class=670062314-28072003><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=-1>After several long "fireside chats" a similar non-turnaround thought pattern came up about over 55's having a non-turnaround class.</FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=670062314-28072003></SPAN><SPAN class=670062314-28072003><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=-1>Complex center maneuvers (e.g. easier to see) for the old guys but non-scored turnarounds. Keep it to say, 10 maneuvers. Would make judging a lot easier. Could retain more pattern pilots as they age!? (Even CD's :-))</FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=670062314-28072003></SPAN><SPAN class=670062314-28072003><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=-1>Lest we not forget our biggest challenge is numbers of participants. As a % of RC pilots we are a decimal point! That scares me. Not enough youth and then we have the "silverbacks" giving up because the routines stretch their vision on turnaround maneuvers.</FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=670062314-28072003></SPAN><SPAN class=670062314-28072003><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=-1>If it was not for the noise problem of the older designs I'd also run SPA at a 401-406 pattern event.</FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=670062314-28072003> <BR><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=-1>Regards,</FONT></FONT></FONT> <BR><SPAN class=670062314-28072003><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=-1>Eric.</FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN class=670062314-28072003></SPAN><SPAN class=670062314-28072003></SPAN></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>