<HTML><BODY STYLE="font:10pt verdana; border:none;"><DIV>Dean</DIV> <DIV>How much more nostalgia can you get? SENIOR PATTERN ASSOCIATION.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Jim Ivey</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial">----- Original Message -----</DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt Arial; COLOR: black"><B>From:</B> Dean Pappas</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, July 28, 2003 10:44 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>To:</B> discussion@nsrca.org</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: NEW CLASS for experienced pilots.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1170" name=GENERATOR> <DIV><SPAN class=013463914-28072003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Why not add noise-limited Nostalgia-Pattern at our events?</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=013463914-28072003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Regards,</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=013463914-28072003> <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Dean</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Henderson,Eric [mailto:Eric.Henderson@gartner.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, July 28, 2003 10:35 AM<BR><B>To:</B> discussion@nsrca.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> NEW CLASS for experienced pilots.<BR><BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=670062314-28072003> After several long "fireside chats" a similar non-turnaround thought pattern came up about over 55's having a non-turnaround class.</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=670062314-28072003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=670062314-28072003>Complex center maneuvers (e.g. easier to see) for the old guys but non-scored turnarounds. Keep it to say, 10 maneuvers. Would make judging a lot easier. Could retain more pattern pilots as they age!? (Even CD's :-))</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=670062314-28072003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=670062314-28072003>Lest we not forget our biggest challenge is numbers of participants. As a % of RC pilots we are a decimal point! That scares me. Not enough youth and then we have the "silverbacks" giving up because the routines stretch their vision on turnaround maneuvers.</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=670062314-28072003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=670062314-28072003>If it was not for the noise problem of the older designs I'd also run SPA at a 401-406 pattern event.</SPAN></FONT></DIV><SPAN class=670062314-28072003> <DIV><BR><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Regards,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><BR><SPAN class=670062314-28072003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Eric.</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=670062314-28072003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=670062314-28072003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>