<HTML><BODY STYLE="font:10pt verdana; border:none;"><DIV>Bill</DIV> <DIV>Astro hog with a OS 70 is legal and quiet,for SPA.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Jim Ivey</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial">----- Original Message -----</DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt Arial; COLOR: black"><B>From:</B> Bill Glaze</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, July 28, 2003 1:00 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>To:</B> discussion@nsrca.org</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: NEW CLASS for experienced pilots.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV>Eric: <BR>Talk about brainstorming; I think you may be on to something. As an aside, I would really enjoy some kind of a contest with kindred souls that would let me employ an Astro-Hog, and be reasonably competitive. Always been a sentimental favorite with me; won a lot with it in the 50's and early 60's, and was there at it's (Astro-Hog's) birth. It's really a good flying sport airplane, even by today's standards. <BR>Sure some good ideas surfacing, here. <P>Bill Glaze <P>"Henderson,Eric" wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE="CITE"> <SPAN class=293194514-28072003><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=-1>I like suggestions - good one Dean!</FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=293194514-28072003></SPAN><SPAN class=293194514-28072003><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=-1>E.</FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=293194514-28072003></SPAN><SPAN class=293194514-28072003></SPAN> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=-1>-----Original Message-----</FONT></FONT> <BR><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=-1><B>From:</B> discussion-request@nsrca.org [<A href="mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org">mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org</A>]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Dean Pappas</FONT></FONT> <BR><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=-1><B>Sent:</B> Monday, July 28, 2003 10:41 AM</FONT></FONT> <BR><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=-1><B>To:</B> discussion@nsrca.org</FONT></FONT> <BR><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=-1><B>Subject:</B> RE: NEW CLASS for experienced pilots.</FONT></FONT> <BR> </DIV><SPAN class=013463914-28072003><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=-1>Why not add noise-limited Nostalgia-Pattern at our events?</FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=013463914-28072003><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=-1>Regards,</FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=013463914-28072003> <FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=-1>Dean</FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=-1>-----Original Message-----</FONT></FONT> <BR><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=-1><B>From:</B> Henderson,Eric [<A href="mailto:Eric.Henderson@gartner.com">mailto:Eric.Henderson@gartner.com</A>]</FONT></FONT> <BR><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=-1><B>Sent:</B> Monday, July 28, 2003 10:35 AM</FONT></FONT> <BR><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=-1><B>To:</B> discussion@nsrca.org</FONT></FONT> <BR><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=-1><B>Subject:</B> NEW CLASS for experienced pilots.</FONT></FONT> <BR> </DIV><SPAN class=670062314-28072003><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=-1>After several long "fireside chats" a similar non-turnaround thought pattern came up about over 55's having a non-turnaround class.</FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=670062314-28072003></SPAN><SPAN class=670062314-28072003><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=-1>Complex center maneuvers (e.g. easier to see) for the old guys but non-scored turnarounds. Keep it to say, 10 maneuvers. Would make judging a lot easier. Could retain more pattern pilots as they age!? (Even CD's :-))</FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=670062314-28072003></SPAN><SPAN class=670062314-28072003><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=-1>Lest we not forget our biggest challenge is numbers of participants. As a % of RC pilots we are a decimal point! That scares me. Not enough youth and then we have the "silverbacks" giving up because the routines stretch their vision on turnaround maneuvers.</FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=670062314-28072003></SPAN><SPAN class=670062314-28072003><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=-1>If it was not for the noise problem of the older designs I'd also run SPA at a 401-406 pattern event.</FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=670062314-28072003> <BR><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=-1>Regards,</FONT></FONT></FONT> <BR><SPAN class=670062314-28072003><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=-1>Eric.</FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN class=670062314-28072003></SPAN><SPAN class=670062314-28072003></SPAN></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>