<HTML><BODY STYLE="font:10pt verdana; border:none;"><DIV>Hey Ron</DIV> <DIV>Next contest bring your SPA plane and I will take you on with my Daddy Rabbit. We will fly expert maneuvers. How long has it been since you put 3 loops on top of each other and in the same plane?</DIV> <DIV> Joshin'</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>jim Ivey</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial">----- Original Message -----</DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt Arial; COLOR: black"><B>From:</B> Ron Van Putte</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, July 28, 2003 6:32 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>To:</B> discussion@nsrca.org</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: NEW CLASS for experienced pilots.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV><BR><BR>jim ivey wrote:<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE cite=midBAY4-DAV154dEcD9mlr00005b0f@hotmail.com type="cite"> <DIV>I'm over 60. What you gonna do with Me?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>A mere youngster. Barely old enough for AARP. Doesn't even qualify for Medicare. You will know you are getting old when it hurts to get out of bed in the morning and you realize that it's as good as you'll feel all day. <BR><BR>Ron Van Putte<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE cite=midBAY4-DAV154dEcD9mlr00005b0f@hotmail.com type="cite"> <DIV> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(0,0,0) 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial; font-stretch: normal; font-size-adjust: none">----- Original Message -----</DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: rgb(228,228,228) 0% 50%; FONT: 10pt Arial; COLOR: black; font-stretch: normal; font-size-adjust: none"><B>From:</B> Henderson,Eric</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial; font-stretch: normal; font-size-adjust: none"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, July 28, 2003 1:52 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial; font-stretch: normal; font-size-adjust: none"><B>To:</B> <A class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A></DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial; font-stretch: normal; font-size-adjust: none"><B>Subject:</B> RE: NEW CLASS for experienced pilots.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <META content="MSHTML 5.50.4611.1300" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> <DIV><SPAN class=446555117-28072003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Maybe one SPA class for over 55's with mixed planes....</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=446555117-28072003></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=446555117-28072003></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> <A class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated href="mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org">discussion-request@nsrca.org</A> [<A class=moz-txt-link-freetext href="mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org">mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org</A>]<B>On Behalf Of </B>GW<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, July 28, 2003 1:51 PM<BR><B>To:</B> <A class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A><BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: NEW CLASS for experienced pilots.<BR><BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>great idea. SPA style planes(older designs-<FONT color=#0000ff>Nostalgia-Pattern) </FONT> mixed into AMA pattern.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>That will raise attendance and promote growth. </FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>GW<BR>Gerald Williams<BR>Email : <A href="mailto:gw@gwair.com">gw@gwair.com</A><BR>Webpage: <A href="http://www.gwair.com/">www.gwair.com</A><BR></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(0,0,0) 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-stretch: normal; font-size-adjust: none">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: rgb(228,228,228) 0% 50%; FONT: 10pt arial; font-stretch: normal; font-size-adjust: none"><B>From:</B> <A title=Eric.Henderson@gartner.com href="mailto:Eric.Henderson@gartner.com">Henderson,Eric</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-stretch: normal; font-size-adjust: none"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-stretch: normal; font-size-adjust: none"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, July 28, 2003 9:45 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-stretch: normal; font-size-adjust: none"><B>Subject:</B> RE: NEW CLASS for experienced pilots.</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=293194514-28072003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I like suggestions - good one Dean!</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=293194514-28072003></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=293194514-28072003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>E.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=293194514-28072003></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=293194514-28072003></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> <A href="mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org">discussion-request@nsrca.org</A> [<A class=moz-txt-link-freetext href="mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org">mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org</A>]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Dean Pappas<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, July 28, 2003 10:41 AM<BR><B>To:</B> <A href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A><BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: NEW CLASS for experienced pilots.<BR><BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=013463914-28072003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Why not add noise-limited Nostalgia-Pattern at our events?</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=013463914-28072003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Regards,</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=013463914-28072003> <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Dean</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Henderson,Eric [<A class=moz-txt-link-freetext href="mailto:Eric.Henderson@gartner.com">mailto:Eric.Henderson@gartner.com</A>]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, July 28, 2003 10:35 AM<BR><B>To:</B> <A class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A><BR><B>Subject:</B> NEW CLASS for experienced pilots.<BR><BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=670062314-28072003> After several long "fireside chats" a similar non-turnaround thought pattern came up about over 55's having a non-turnaround class.</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=670062314-28072003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=670062314-28072003>Complex center maneuvers (e.g. easier to see) for the old guys but non-scored turnarounds. Keep it to say, 10 maneuvers. Would make judging a lot easier. Could retain more pattern pilots as they age!? (Even CD's :-))</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=670062314-28072003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=670062314-28072003>Lest we not forget our biggest challenge is numbers of participants. As a % of RC pilots we are a decimal point! That scares me. Not enough youth and then we have the "silverbacks" giving up because the routines stretch their vision on turnaround maneuvers.</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=670062314-28072003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=670062314-28072003>If it was not for the noise problem of the older designs I'd also run SPA at a 401-406 pattern event.</SPAN></FONT></DIV><SPAN class=670062314-28072003> <DIV><BR><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Regards,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><BR><SPAN class=670062314-28072003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Eric.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=670062314-28072003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=670062314-28072003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV></SPAN></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>