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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>great idea. SPA style planes(older designs-<FONT
color=#0000ff>Nostalgia-Pattern) </FONT> mixed into AMA
pattern.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>That will raise attendance and promote growth.
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<DIV>GW<BR>Gerald Williams<BR>Email : <A
href="mailto:gw@gwair.com">gw@gwair.com</A><BR>Webpage: <A
href="http://www.gwair.com">www.gwair.com</A><BR></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=Eric.Henderson@gartner.com
href="mailto:Eric.Henderson@gartner.com">Henderson,Eric</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, July 28, 2003 9:45 AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: NEW CLASS for experienced
pilots.</DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=293194514-28072003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I
like suggestions - good one Dean!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=293194514-28072003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>E.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
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size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> <A
href="mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org">discussion-request@nsrca.org</A>
[mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Dean
Pappas<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, July 28, 2003 10:41 AM<BR><B>To:</B> <A
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A><BR><B>Subject:</B>
RE: NEW CLASS for experienced pilots.<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=013463914-28072003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Why
not add noise-limited Nostalgia-Pattern at our events?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=013463914-28072003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Regards,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=013463914-28072003> <FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Dean</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Henderson,Eric
[mailto:Eric.Henderson@gartner.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, July 28, 2003
10:35 AM<BR><B>To:</B> discussion@nsrca.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> NEW CLASS for
experienced pilots.<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=670062314-28072003> After several long "fireside chats" a similar
non-turnaround thought pattern came up about over 55's having a
non-turnaround class.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=670062314-28072003>Complex center maneuvers (e.g. easier to see) for
the old guys but non-scored turnarounds. Keep it to say, 10 maneuvers. Would
make judging a lot easier. Could retain more pattern pilots as they age!?
(Even CD's :-))</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=670062314-28072003>Lest we not forget our biggest challenge is numbers
of participants. As a % of RC pilots we are a decimal point! That scares me.
Not enough youth and then we have the "silverbacks" giving up because the
routines stretch their vision on turnaround maneuvers.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=670062314-28072003>If
it was not for the noise problem of the older designs I'd also run
SPA at a 401-406 pattern event.</SPAN></FONT></DIV><SPAN
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<DIV><BR><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Regards,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR><SPAN class=670062314-28072003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Eric.</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
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