<HTML><BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff" STYLE="font:10pt verdana; border:none;background-color:#ffffff; "><DIV>Eddie</DIV> <DIV>The way you get people interested in pattern is to challange them to learn how to fly a straight line with the runway at the same altitude and parallel to the ground. That will weed out the hotdogs and loud mouths. That is the hardest part of pattern flying. The rest is easy when they have learned this. I bet you will have some humble guys afterwards. When they get interested enough to do this, they are hooked. All else is practice. I just hooked 2 guys in SPA last weekend and now they are looking forward to the next contest in a couple of weeks.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Jim Ivey</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial">----- Original Message -----</DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt Arial; COLOR: black"><B>From:</B> W. Eddie Batchelor</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, July 28, 2003 1:30 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>To:</B> discussion@nsrca.org</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: NEW concept? for pattern entry.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <META content="MSHTML 5.50.4134.600" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE>@font-face { font-family: Tahoma; } @page Section1 {size: 8.5in 11.0in; margin: 1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in; } P.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial } LI.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial } DIV.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial } A:link { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } SPAN.MsoHyperlink { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } A:visited { COLOR: purple; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } SPAN.MsoHyperlinkFollowed { COLOR: purple; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } P.MsoAutoSig { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial } LI.MsoAutoSig { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial } DIV.MsoAutoSig { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial } SPAN.EmailStyle16 { FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: navy; FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-FAMILY: Arial } SPAN.EmailStyle19 { COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial } DIV.Section1 { page: Section1 } </STYLE> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hello to the NSRCA list. I have been reading the list for about 3 weeks now and I'd like to share my thoughts here.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Being from the same hometown as Nat Penton, I have naturally watched pattern since my introduction to RC in 1979. If I hadn't abandoned the hobby for marriage and etc :-) I would have been flying pattern for a long time now.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Since picking RC back up 2 years ago, I've moved up to the skill level that I am now attempting to "learn" the 401 schedule and am amazed at how "Hard" it is to do such simple maneuvers properly. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Now for my point :-) I ,for one, would not want a simpler (non-turnaround)class. It's like remedial math, there's something psychological about not being good enough to do it like the big-guys. Also it is my understanding that part of the reason for the move to turn-around was to speed things up. Would a non-turnaround class slow things back down. It would be even more embarrassing for everyone to have to wait on the "beginners" due to a slow schedule.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Since my club(LARKS) is hosting a contest this next month, I have tried to encourage our sport members to enter. Many have never seen a pattern contest (it's been several years since we had a contest). I get answers like "I don't want to do that -you have to practice too much. I just want to fly" I would appredciate some answers from you experienced guys on how to entice them further. I'm hoping getting to see it (the contest)will do some of that.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I'm sure there are many parts to this problem (proposed change) that I've not thought about or am not aware of. I just wanted to share the view point of someone trying to "start" in pattern. I do realise that my view may be biased from having know a little about pattern in the past. But knowing about something and doing it are entirely two different things ( I'm finding that out) :-))</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Eddie </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>AMA 80330</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>NSRCA 3584</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>KD5RJQ</FONT></DIV> <DIV>W. Eddie Batchelor P.D.<BR>Perkins Pharmacy<BR>Take Charge - A Lifestyle Management System<BR>The Wellness Store (A Natural Pharmacy)<BR>129 N Pine St<BR>DeQuincy, La. 70633<BR>E-mail : <A href="mailto:eddie@perkinspharmacy.com">eddie@perkinspharmacy.com</A></DIV> <DIV>Website : <A href="http://www.perkinspharmacy.com/">www.perkinspharmacy.com</A><BR>Phone : 337-786-6111<BR>Fax : 337-786-4499</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=Eric.Henderson@gartner.com href="mailto:Eric.Henderson@gartner.com">Henderson,Eric</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, July 28, 2003 9:22 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> NEW concept? for pattern entry.</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=810190714-28072003>One idea that I have thought about proposing is to change the 401 class back to non turnaround. Too many pilots get dangerously out of kilter trying to handle the flight direction challenges after a center maneuver when they are under the stress load of being judged. Their next step up would be 402 turnaround but by then they would be more pattern proficient.</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=810190714-28072003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=810190714-28072003>We would change the schedule to do more than straight line in the center but not by much else.</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=810190714-28072003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=810190714-28072003>Any strong feelings or views on this train of thought?</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=810190714-28072003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=810190714-28072003>Regards,</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=810190714-28072003><BR>Eric.</SPAN></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>