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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>A side thought:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>What if... someone created an R/C Flight
simulator software package that would teach and critique aerobatic
maneuvers. Dave Brown are you out there? Those that were "scared" of competition
could practice at home, without fear of embarrassment. Then go out and try it
for real.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Michael Ramsey</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=Eric.Henderson@gartner.com
href="mailto:Eric.Henderson@gartner.com">Henderson,Eric</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, July 28, 2003 1:39 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: NEW concept? for pattern
entry.</DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=434073617-28072003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>What
if there was a class that you could run yourself at your club with friends and
/or among a few local clubs. Call it Club Class
pattern????</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=434073617-28072003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>E.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=434073617-28072003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=434073617-28072003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> <A
href="mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org">discussion-request@nsrca.org</A>
[mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>W. Eddie
Batchelor<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, July 28, 2003 1:27 PM<BR><B>To:</B> <A
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A><BR><B>Subject:</B>
Re: NEW concept? for pattern entry.<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hello to the NSRCA list. I have been reading the
list for about 3 weeks now and I'd like to share my thoughts
here.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Being from the same hometown as Nat Penton, I
have naturally watched pattern since my introduction to RC in 1979. If I
hadn't abandoned the hobby for marriage and etc :-) I would have been flying
pattern for a long time now.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Since picking RC back up 2 years ago, I've moved
up to the skill level that I am now attempting to "learn" the 401 schedule and
am amazed at how "Hard" it is to do such simple maneuvers
properly. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Now for my point :-) I ,for one, would not want a
simpler (non-turnaround)class. It's like remedial math, there's something
psychological about not being good enough to do it like the big-guys. Also it
is my understanding that part of the reason for the move to turn-around was to
speed things up. Would a non-turnaround class slow things back down. It
would be even more embarrassing for everyone to have to wait on the
"beginners" due to a slow schedule.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Since my club(LARKS) is hosting a contest this
next month, I have tried to encourage our sport members to enter. Many have
never seen a pattern contest (it's been several years since we had a contest).
I get answers like "I don't want to do that -you have to practice too much. I
just want to fly" I would appredciate some answers from you experienced
guys on how to entice them further. I'm hoping getting to see it (the
contest)will do some of that.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I'm sure there are many parts to this problem
(proposed change) that I've not thought about or am not aware of. I just
wanted to share the view point of someone trying to "start" in pattern. I do
realise that my view may be biased from having know a little about pattern in
the past. But knowing about something and doing it are entirely two different
things ( I'm finding that out) :-))</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Eddie </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>AMA 80330</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>NSRCA 3584</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>KD5RJQ</FONT></DIV>
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: 337-786-6111<BR>Fax : 337-786-4499</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=Eric.Henderson@gartner.com
href="mailto:Eric.Henderson@gartner.com">Henderson,Eric</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, July 28, 2003 9:22
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> NEW concept? for pattern
entry.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=810190714-28072003>One idea that I have thought about proposing is to
change the 401 class back to non turnaround. Too many pilots get dangerously
out of kilter trying to handle the flight direction challenges after a
center maneuver when they are under the stress load of being judged. Their
next step up would be 402 turnaround but by then they would be more pattern
proficient.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=810190714-28072003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=810190714-28072003>We
would change the schedule to do more than straight line in the center but
not by much else.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=810190714-28072003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=810190714-28072003>Any strong feelings or views on this train of
thought?</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=810190714-28072003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=810190714-28072003>Regards,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=810190714-28072003><BR>Eric.</SPAN></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>