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John: As usual, smart and succinct. Interestingly, (and totally
unknown to you) I was considering going to Masters myself just this A.M.
There's stuff in there I can't even begin to do, but it would be something
different. And, I haven't been to a contest yet where they turned
someone away, regardless of what class they entered. Maybe it's time
to try to figure out the 4-of-8. Look out, Donny Wright, here I
come!!
<p>Bill Glaze
<p>John Ferrell wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE> <font face="Arial"><font size=-1>Well put!</font></font><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>Bill
and I are among the permanent members of the "lower" classes. After flying
a given sequence a season or so, we see we are in an area of diminishing
returns. Practice is not the limiting factor as to how good we are going
to get, our personal limitations are the real limits. Changing the sequence
regularly does not make us better flyers, it makes us frequent flyers.</font></font> <font face="Arial"><font size=-1>When
a pattern flyer loses interest in practice, he is a step away from losing
interest in pattern. Then your contests start having only as many contestants
as you have trophies. I really don't think the sequence has a lot of effect
on the rising pilots. They are going to make their way through the permanent
members of the "lower" classes regardless.</font></font> <font face="Arial"><font size=-1>I
frequently think about just moving on to Masters anyway. It won't make
any difference in the trophy collection, it costs the same, and the scenery
changes occasionally. Also, then I would not have to judge it!</font></font> <font face="Arial"><font size=-1>May
be I will do that.... It sounds better all the time.... I wonder
what happens if we all do that?</font></font>
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<a href="mailto:warrior523@mchsi.com" title="warrior523@mchsi.com">Dan
Curtis</a></div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org" title="discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</a></div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 18, 2003 5:10
PM</div>
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<font size=-1>Bill,</font> <font size=-1>I feel your pain <--best
Clinton impersonation. It is really hard to believe that our schedule
system within NSRCA and through AMA is so entwined with complexity and
red tape. The idea of stepping stones from class to class is fine however
the schedules could still be changed periodically. Many of the Int.
and Adv. flyers that I know are going to be pretty disappointed, they were
looking forward to a change in 2005 and yes I realize that they were thinking
erroneously but some just started with in the past 15 months.</font> <font size=-1>Dan</font>
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<a href="mailto:billglaze@triad.rr.com" title="billglaze@triad.rr.com">Bill
Glaze</a></div>
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<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 18, 2003 2:34
PM</div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> Re: 2005 Proposed Schedules</div>
Dan:
<br>If the Annex Proposal passes, (vote to be held later) that means that
we of the Great Unwashed Advanced and Intermediate Classes will be on the
same footing as the Masters. Sure hope it passes; I get so tired
of practicing the same old 6's and 7's time after time. Would like
some different 6's and 7's!<G>
<p>Bill Glaze
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<font size=-1>Thanks Troy,</font>
<font size=-1>Don't know how I got the idea that more than the Masters
Sequence would change. I thought all the classes were on a three
year cycle now after the Masters having the little two year bump in the
flow. >From the questions I get at some of the contest it seems that
many flyers in Int. and Adv are expecting a change, oh well.</font> <font size=-1>I
also thought that the *03 schedule was history with in FAI after the World
Champ. Figured that they would have it all finalized and ready to
go. Any idea when a final version will be up and running?</font>
<font size=-1>ThanksDan</font>
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<a href="mailto:troy_newman@msn.com" title="troy_newman@msn.com">Troy Newman</a></div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org" title="discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</a></div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, August 17, 2003 9:15
PM</div>
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<font face="Arial"><font size=-1>Dan....</font></font> <font face="Arial"><font size=-1>Only
proposal is for a Masters class schedule change....</font></font> <font face="Arial"><font size=-1>But
if the annex system gets passed then the NSRCA has the ability to change
things all the time....Hopefully the annex system if passed has enough
checks and balances on it...I really don't like the idea....but then again
I don't fly AMA pattern so you guys enjoy....</font></font> <font face="Arial"><font size=-1>As
for the P-05 and F-05 I believe there are some things that are needing
clarification from the CIAM committee....so it will change.....Also there
is not an official Aresti diagram of the new sequences for P-05 and F-05
as of yet.....I have seen a "french version" that many have been sending
around....It contrary to the word descriptions on a couple things ...According
to one of our overseas list watchers there are many changes to the sequences
and they will be published....they just are not available yet....</font></font>
<font face="Arial"><font size=-1>I can send you the Plenary meeting notes
and the proposed sequences for 2005 and 2007 from the F3A group but
I don't think these are final yet.</font></font> <font face="Arial"><font size=-1>By
the way I have been flying both the P and F's for both 2005 and 2007 and
that's how I know there are some inconsistencies...descriptors and aresti's
as well as descriptors and maneuvers names not matching up 100%...</font></font>
<font face="Arial"><font size=-1>Troy</font></font>
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<a href="mailto:warrior523@mchsi.com" title="warrior523@mchsi.com">Dan
Curtis</a></div>
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Discussion</a></div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Friday, August 15, 2003 10:23
PM</div>
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<font size=-1>Can someone guide me to list of the proposed schedules
for 2005. All classes. I believe it was posted on the list
referring to the AMA site but alas I have had no success in finding them.</font>
<font size=-1>Thanks</font> <font size=-1>Dan</font> <font size=-1>Oh also
the link I had for the ribbon drawings for the PO5 and F05 schedules does
not seem to be working. Anyone got a good one for these drawings.</font>
<font size=-1>Thanks again</font> <font size=-1>Dan</font></blockquote>
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