<DIV> Tommy, were from Chicago and we don't get scared easily. Man you D4 guys win one time and we really get beat on! Bring it on Mark were ready! Mike<BR><BR><B><I>"Thomas C. Weedon" <weedon@wwnet.net></I></B> wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">Mark,<BR>It sounds like a good idea, but do you think those D5 fellows are up to the<BR>challenge???<BR>The Saturday night party may be too much and they will just sleep in on<BR>Sunday and miss all the excitment <G>.<BR>Tom<BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: Atwood, Mark [mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org]On Behalf Of<BR>Atwood, Mark<BR>Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 10:21 AM<BR>To: discussion@nsrca.org<BR>Subject: D4 Champs - Unknowns<BR><BR><BR><BR>Question for all the D4/D5 and any other guys that may be attending this<BR>years D4 distrct championship Pattern/Nightflight pyrotechnic targeting<BR>contest.<BR><BR>There has been some interest generated for bringing back the famed "unknown"<BR>sequence that we use to fly at this event. In the past, we (Bob Pannell and<BR>I, who both flew Masters then) created and FAI unknown in an attemp to<BR>challange and entertain a bored
set of FAI/TOC flyers that attended in our<BR>area. We had found that the existing FAI crowd (Mike Klein, Dave Von<BR>Linsowe, Geoff Combs, etc...all TOC flyers) treated the contest rather<BR>loosely and the unknown spiced things up a bit.<BR><BR>This year there has been some interest in having an unknown for ALL the<BR>classes. This poses some interesting challenges, but could be fun. So<BR>while Bob and I will make the final decision, I'm interested in some<BR>feedback and ideas.<BR><BR>First, we will be flying at least 4 NORMAL rounds regardless. This is our<BR>district champs, and for some of the classes, these points are critical.<BR>That will be the primary focus. But IF we decide to play with unknowns, AND<BR>the weather are patrons cooperate to allow 5 or 6 rounds, we may fly the<BR>last one or two with Unknown sequences. These rounds would NOT count for<BR>district points, but WOULD count for the overall contest winner. I.e. we<BR>would, should we do this, determine
district points based on the 4 or 5<BR>rounds flown with normal schedules.<BR><BR>Ok...all that said...I have a few options.<BR><BR>Option #1 - Create an unknown schedule for all classes. This entails a LOT<BR>of work, and requires a fair amount of work during the contest as Callers<BR>become that much more critical. Judging is also tricky as no one is<BR>familiar with the sequences. Lastly, I'll need a volunteer from each class<BR>to practice ANOTHER classes unknown so that a demo can be flown.<BR><BR>Option #2 - the other extreme...We create ONE unknown sequence, and any and<BR>all that would like to fly it, may. This would likely be more of a<BR>Masters/FAI event with a few Advanced flyers taking a shot. We would<BR>probably run Adv/Int/Sportsman as normal. The advantage here is a lot less<BR>prep work, though I would need two volunteers to create a 1/3 of the<BR>sequence (I would create the last third) so that none of us know the whole<BR>thing. (FYI if you think you can create
these without flying them, you've<BR>never created a sequence.) The primary dissadvantage is not everyone can<BR>participate, and, by mixing Masters/fai/Adv flyers, it almost has to be run<BR>as a seperate contest (though I could easily just compare Masters with<BR>Masters, etc.<BR><BR>Option #3 - Similar to Option 2...create one sequence of moderate<BR>difficulty, and substitute 5 center manuevers based on class to alter the<BR>difficulty. In this case, the primary challenge is the concept of an<BR>unknown itself...not the individual manuevers, with a few class level<BR>difficulty manuevers thrown in to seperate things.<BR><BR>This is sort of a blended approach...advantages and disadvantages are the<BR>same but to a lesser extent.<BR><BR>Thoughts?? Interest level??? Ideas??? I'm open to anything. Just want to<BR>have some fun, and yet stay fairly true to the contest.<BR><BR>Fire away (not you Verne, you take that phrase too literally!)<BR><BR>Mark<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>> ATTACHMENT
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