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Wayne Galligan wrote:<br>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Or is it? "We have this vast infinite
wealth of useless knowledge"</font></div>
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I have been saving that 'half vast' line for a long time, hoping someone
would give me a straight line. <br>
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This 'shaking the fuel jug' idea is a lot like the castor oil versus synthetic
oil arguments we all hear. After a while, I decided to treat it like someone
else's religion and not mess with it. You can't convince the other guy and
you might make an enemy.<br>
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BTW, isn't vast and infinite redundant? Kind of like saying, "opinionated
Pattern pilot"?<br>
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Ron Van Putte<br>
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Re: Shaking Up Fuel Bottles?</div>
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Don Livermore wrote:<br>
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<div><em><font face="Comic Sans MS">Thanks for your information about
"shaking" the fuel jugs before using. As usual you all have a vast knowledge
of a lot of things....Don</font></em></div>
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Yeah, some of us have vast knowledge on subjects. For some, the knowledge
is only half vast. <VBG><br>
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Ron Van Putte<br>
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Monday, September 22, 2003 9:17 AM</div>
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<div><span class="028105913-22092003"><font face="Arial"
color="#0000ff" size="2">I will use about 20-30 case of 2-c and 4-c fuel
a year, in both pattern and sport planes. I know that the fuels should
be well mixed and should stay that way but....</font></span></div>
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<div><font face="Arial"><font color="#0000ff"><font size="2"><span
class="028105913-22092003">On multiple occasions I have had engines run
fat or smoky (both 2 and 4 -c) when I switched to a "fresh" new can
of of fuel. Clearing that tank of the fuel that was in there and refilling
with fuel that had been shaken, produced a normal run.</span> <span
class="028105913-22092003"> Not talking about first run of the day
either.</span></font></font></font></div>
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class="028105913-22092003"></span></font></font></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial"><font color="#0000ff"><font size="2"><span
class="028105913-22092003">Since then I stopped fitting a new bottle every
time and began to use a permanent bottle/can on the flight-box and
fill from a new can. Never happened again. I think that some oil or
higher oil methanol ratio sits at the bottom - that's where the electric
pump pick-up is - and you get a mix that gives you a sort of bad
run.</span></font></font></font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial"><font color="#0000ff"><font size="2"><span
class="028105913-22092003">Once I did try lifting the bottle pick up to
half way up the bottle and filled the tank tank that way. It
ran normally again. Call it my imagination, tell me it can't happen
scientifically, but I'll shake my fuel and also transfer to another can
before I use it. </span></font></font></font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial"><font color="#0000ff"><font size="2"><span
class="028105913-22092003">To answer the original question it does not seem
to cause any harm to do so.(Shake it, that is!)</span></font></font></font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial"><font color="#0000ff"><font size="2"><span
class="028105913-22092003">Regards, </span></font></font></font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial"><font color="#0000ff"><font size="2"><span
class="028105913-22092003">Eric.</span></font></font></font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial"><font color="#0000ff"><font size="2">P<span
class="028105913-22092003">.S. A can that has been opened and 2/3 of the
fuel used, sealed and then left for a year, seems to lose its Nitro
content and give similar results</span>.<span
class="028105913-22092003"> </span></font></font></font></div>
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face="Tahoma"><font size="2"><b>From:</b> <a
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href="mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org">mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org</a>]<b>On
Behalf Of </b>Kris Kovanda<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, September 21, 2003 7:05 PM<br>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">I don't, But I've only been flying
4 years. I got bad fuel once, so I switched brand and never happened
again. What fuel are you using? I just pulled the gallon out
of the case and fly. :)</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Kris Kovanda</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">D3 Pattern</font></div>
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Sunday, September 21, 2003 5:54 PM</div>
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<div><em><font face="Comic Sans MS">Someone who has been racing
rc cars for over 20 years and is a very qualified rc guy asked me
this week if I had been "shaking" the gallon fuel bottles to mix
the ingredients up before using. I had gotten a bad gallon of fuel
that was just purchased from a local hobby shop and in questioning
him about this is when he asked me the question. I have been doing
rc for over ten years and I have never done this or have ever seen
anyone doing this. Do any of you out there in "pattern land" do
this? Thanks.....Don</font></em></div>
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