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Don Livermore wrote:<br>
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<div><em><font face="Comic Sans MS">Thanks for your information about "shaking"
the fuel jugs before using. As usual you all have a vast knowledge of a
lot of things....Don</font></em></div>
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Yeah, some of us have vast knowledge on subjects. For some, the knowledge
is only half vast. <VBG><br>
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Ron Van Putte<br>
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Monday, September 22, 2003 9:17 AM</div>
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RE: Shaking Up Fuel Bottles?</div>
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<div><span class="028105913-22092003"><font face="Arial"
color="#0000ff" size="2">I will use about 20-30 case of 2-c and 4-c fuel
a year, in both pattern and sport planes. I know that the fuels should
be well mixed and should stay that way but....</font></span></div>
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<div><font face="Arial"><font color="#0000ff"><font size="2"><span
class="028105913-22092003">On multiple occasions I have had engines run
fat or smoky (both 2 and 4 -c) when I switched to a "fresh" new can of
of fuel. Clearing that tank of the fuel that was in there and refilling
with fuel that had been shaken, produced a normal run.</span> <span
class="028105913-22092003"> Not talking about first run of the day either.</span></font></font></font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial"><font color="#0000ff"><font size="2"><span
class="028105913-22092003">Since then I stopped fitting a new bottle every
time and began to use a permanent bottle/can on the flight-box and fill
from a new can. Never happened again. I think that some oil or higher
oil methanol ratio sits at the bottom - that's where the electric pump
pick-up is - and you get a mix that gives you a sort of bad run.</span></font></font></font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial"><font color="#0000ff"><font size="2"><span
class="028105913-22092003">Once I did try lifting the bottle pick up to
half way up the bottle and filled the tank tank that way. It ran normally
again. Call it my imagination, tell me it can't happen scientifically,
but I'll shake my fuel and also transfer to another can before I use it.
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<div><font face="Arial"><font color="#0000ff"><font size="2"><span
class="028105913-22092003">To answer the original question it does not seem
to cause any harm to do so.(Shake it, that is!)</span></font></font></font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial"><font color="#0000ff"><font size="2"><span
class="028105913-22092003">Regards, </span></font></font></font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial"><font color="#0000ff"><font size="2"><span
class="028105913-22092003">Eric.</span></font></font></font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial"><font color="#0000ff"><font size="2">P<span
class="028105913-22092003">.S. A can that has been opened and 2/3 of the
fuel used, sealed and then left for a year, seems to lose its Nitro content
and give similar results</span>.<span class="028105913-22092003"> </span></font></font></font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial"><font color="#0000ff"><font size="2"><span
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face="Tahoma"><font size="2"><b>From:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org">discussion-request@nsrca.org</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org">mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org</a>]<b>On Behalf Of </b>Kris Kovanda<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, September 21, 2003 7:05 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Shaking Up Fuel Bottles?<br>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">I don't, But I've only been flying 4
years. I got bad fuel once, so I switched brand and never happened again.
What fuel are you using? I just pulled the gallon out of the case and
fly. :)</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Kris Kovanda</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">D3 Pattern</font></div>
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<a title="dlivermore@mchsi.com" href="mailto:dlivermore@mchsi.com">Don
Livermore</a> </div>
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Sunday, September 21, 2003 5:54 PM</div>
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<div><em><font face="Comic Sans MS">Someone who has been racing rc
cars for over 20 years and is a very qualified rc guy asked me this
week if I had been "shaking" the gallon fuel bottles to mix the ingredients
up before using. I had gotten a bad gallon of fuel that was just purchased
from a local hobby shop and in questioning him about this is when
he asked me the question. I have been doing rc for over ten years and
I have never done this or have ever seen anyone doing this. Do any of
you out there in "pattern land" do this? Thanks.....Don</font></em></div>
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