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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ron,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Or is it? "We have this vast infinite wealth
of useless knowledge"</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Wayne G.</FONT></DIV></DIV>
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<A title=vanputte@cox.net href="mailto:vanputte@cox.net">Ron Van Putte</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, September 22, 2003 5:09
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Shaking Up Fuel
Bottles?</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><BR><BR>Don Livermore wrote:<BR>
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<DIV><EM><FONT face="Comic Sans MS">Thanks for your information about
"shaking" the fuel jugs before using. As usual you all have a vast knowledge
of a lot of things....Don</FONT></EM></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Yeah, some of us
have vast knowledge on subjects. For some, the knowledge is only half
vast. <VBG><BR><BR>Ron Van Putte<BR>
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<A title=Eric.Henderson@gartner.com
href="mailto:Eric.Henderson@gartner.com">Henderson,Eric</A> </DIV>
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style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-stretch: normal; font-size-adjust: none"><B>To:</B>
<A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
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style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-stretch: normal; font-size-adjust: none"><B>Sent:</B>
Monday, September 22, 2003 9:17 AM</DIV>
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style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-stretch: normal; font-size-adjust: none"><B>Subject:</B>
RE: Shaking Up Fuel Bottles?</DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=028105913-22092003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>I will use about 20-30 case of 2-c and 4-c fuel a year, in both
pattern and sport planes. I know that the fuels should be well mixed and
should stay that way but....</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=028105913-22092003>On multiple occasions I have had engines run fat
or smoky (both 2 and 4 -c) when I switched to a "fresh" new can of of
fuel. Clearing that tank of the fuel that was in there and refilling with
fuel that had been shaken, produced a normal run.</SPAN> <SPAN
class=028105913-22092003> Not talking about first run of the day
either.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=028105913-22092003></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=028105913-22092003>Since then I stopped fitting a new bottle every
time and began to use a permanent bottle/can on the flight-box and fill
from a new can. Never happened again. I think that some oil or higher oil
methanol ratio sits at the bottom - that's where the electric pump
pick-up is - and you get a mix that gives you a sort of bad
run.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=028105913-22092003></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=028105913-22092003>Once I did try lifting the bottle pick up to half
way up the bottle and filled the tank tank that way. It
ran normally again. Call it my imagination, tell me it can't happen
scientifically, but I'll shake my fuel and also transfer to another can
before I use it. </SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=028105913-22092003></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=028105913-22092003>To answer the original question it does not seem
to cause any harm to do so.(Shake it, that
is!)</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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class=028105913-22092003></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=028105913-22092003>Regards, </SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=028105913-22092003>Eric.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2>P<SPAN
class=028105913-22092003>.S. A can that has been opened and 2/3 of the
fuel used, sealed and then left for a year, seems to lose its Nitro
content and give similar results</SPAN>.<SPAN
class=028105913-22092003> </SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=028105913-22092003> </SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT
face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><B>From:</B> <A class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated
href="mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org">discussion-request@nsrca.org</A>
[<A class=moz-txt-link-freetext
href="mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org">mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org</A>]<B>On
Behalf Of </B>Kris Kovanda<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, September 21, 2003 7:05
PM<BR><B>To:</B> <A class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A><BR><B>Subject:</B>
Re: Shaking Up Fuel Bottles?<BR><BR></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I don't, But I've only been flying 4
years. I got bad fuel once, so I switched brand and never happened
again. What fuel are you using? I just pulled the gallon out
of the case and fly. :)</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Kris Kovanda</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>D3 Pattern</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=dlivermore@mchsi.com href="mailto:dlivermore@mchsi.com">Don
Livermore</A> </DIV>
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<A title=discussion@nsrca.org
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Sunday, September 21, 2003 5:54 PM</DIV>
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Shaking Up Fuel Bottles?</DIV>
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<DIV><EM><FONT face="Comic Sans MS">Someone who has been racing rc cars
for over 20 years and is a very qualified rc guy asked me this week if I
had been "shaking" the gallon fuel bottles to mix the ingredients up
before using. I had gotten a bad gallon of fuel that was just purchased
from a local hobby shop and in questioning him about this is
when he asked me the question. I have been doing rc for over ten years
and I have never done this or have ever seen anyone doing this. Do any
of you out there in "pattern land" do this?
Thanks.....Don</FONT></EM></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>