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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>one thing I have noticed is that most people can
freestyle, but you put a pattern sequence or a imac sequence in front off them
and they cannot due it. Freesytle is alot of fun but it does not prepare you for
pattern or imac.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>bryan .byrd</FONT></DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=aabdu@sbcglobal.net href="mailto:aabdu@sbcglobal.net">Anthony
Abdullah</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, October 13, 2003 6:50
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Too quiet, one man's opinion
(long)</DIV>
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<DIV>Pattern and audience appeal are not two words that I would ever really
put together. For those who know what is involved pattern is beautiful and
exciting, but for the sport flyer or casual observer it is a bunch of planes
that don't look like real planes doing the same thing over and over. They find
that very boring, and the reality is, unless you are competing, pattern is not
a very good spectator sport. We just don't have the edge of your seat
possibility of carnage that you have in something like pylon racing, or
freestyle. I love pattern in it's current form. I am not one of the
people that subscribe to the notion that our declining participation numbers
are due to it being too hard, having classes named incorrectly, or that the
equipment is too expensive. We don't need to go back to non turnaround
manuevers, or relax the rules so that anything with wings can compete. I am
just as concerned about our dwindling numbers as anyone, but I don't want
to try to fix it at the expense of pattern itself. To me that is just too
high a price to pay. On an individual level we can encourage other pilots
that show an interest in pattern (like Mr. Kane did with Andrew), but I'm
afraid that we won't ever really have mass appeal. I believe
that participation in pattern reflects a nationwide trend as
to how things are changing. We are the old kit manufacturer with the
best laser cut parts, highest quality wood, excellent design and engineering,
and full size plans, in a world of ARFs. Sig used to have some of the best
kits (Commander, Cougar, Kadet, Eagle , Sky Tiger, Falcon 56, etc) but as
well as they were designed they still had to be offered as ARFs because no one
builds anymore, they just assemble, and fewer and fewer people have the
dedication or discipline necessary to practice and pay their dues as
required by pattern.</DIV>
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<DIV>Short anecdote:</DIV>
<DIV>I work as an instructor at my local club (and it is work)
every Thursday evening. I was trying to teach one of my students to take
off and he was having a very hard time. He had mastered left and right turns
and wanted to move on. He was having great difficulty keeping the plane
straight on taxi and was nearly decapitating people every take off
by over controlling and slashing toward the pits. He had two problems, one:
the other instructors had never had him even touch the left stick other
than to advance the throttle so it was very unnatural for him, and the second
was he had way too much throw in his front wheel. I told him that he
needed to reduce the throw in his steering and he said "what do you mean". I
told him that his steering was too sensitive and was reducing his margin of
error on take off to nearly nothing and he got that deer in the headlights
look. We went around and around on this fairly simple concept for about 20
minutes. We are talking about a guy who was in his second summer of flying and
had assembled a number of ARF/RTFs but had no concept of how the rudder
and steering linkage worked. He had no idea how to reduce the throw and what
affect moving in or out on the servo wheel, or up and down on the control horn
would have. I took a poll and the vast majority of the students old and young
had no idea how to change the throw or even what that meant. The point is,
anyone with a CC # can get in the air without having to build or learn the
basic aerodynamic lessons that form a basis for RC flight. It is those people
down the road that are NOT accepting the pattern challenge, and we should not
be surprised. Pattern is not for everyone and that is not soon to change. We
need to be like Sig and try to change with the times, but not change what
pattern is. It is a very difficult task and if I come up with a good answer I
will certainly let everyone in on it.</DIV>
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<DIV>Thanks for your time</DIV>
<DIV>Anthony</DIV>
<DIV>D-4<BR><BR><B><I>william krueger <wkrueger1@wi.rr.com></I></B>
wrote:</DIV>
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need to talk about giving pattern more audience appeal, why do you
think<BR>that free style is so popular, people see it and say "I gotta try
that" even<BR>the wife's like to watch it. Maybe it is time for a new
pattern category<BR>which includes free style.<BR><BR>Bill<BR>----- Original
Message -----<BR>From: "Larry Diamond" <JED241@MSN.COM><BR>To:
<DISCUSSION@NSRCA.ORG><BR>Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 4:55 PM<BR>Subject:
Re: Too quiet, test<BR><BR><BR>> Last Time I saw this subject line, I
started a thread about how the points<BR>> were tallied and challenged
the scoring system...<BR>><BR>> 400 e-mails later it died
out...Probably don't want to start that one<BR>again<BR>> till next
year...<VBG><BR>><BR>> See ya,<BR>><BR>>
Larry<BR>><BR>><BR>> ----- Original Message -----<BR>> From:
"Atwood, Mark" <ATWOODM@PARAGON-INC.COM><BR>> To: <DISCUSSION@NSRCA.ORG>;
"nsrca" <DISCUSSION@NSRCA.ORG><BR>> Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 3:03
PM<BR>> Subject: RE: Too quiet, test<BR>><BR>><BR>>
Yup<BR>><BR>> -Mark<BR>><BR>><BR>> -----Original
Message-----<BR>> From: Bob Kane [mailto:getterflash@yahoo.com]<BR>>
Sent: Fri 10/10/2003 3:59 PM<BR>> To: nsrca<BR>> Cc:<BR>> Subject:
Too quiet, test<BR>><BR>> Is it working?<BR>><BR>><BR>> Bob
Kane<BR>> getterflash@yahoo.com<BR>><BR>>
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