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<DIV><SPAN class=899034800-25102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Maybe
its more like the Masters folks got together and took care of their own needs,
and us lower class guys did nothing, waiting for others to do it. If we wanted a
change, we should have initiated it ourselves. For me, putting the immelman/snap
back into intermediate will stretch me another year, then it will be time
to move up anyway.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=899034800-25102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=899034800-25102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Us
lower class guys get fresh schedules by moving up. Masters is defined a
destination class, and they need change to keep from getting
bored.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> discussion-request@nsrca.org
[mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Bill
Glaze<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, October 24, 2003 2:43 PM<BR><B>To:</B> NSRCA
discussion<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: schedules<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>All:<BR>It is
interesting, however, to note that, while there wasn't "time" to get new
schedules together for classes other than Masters, there still existed enough
"time" to put that one together. (And, of course, being much more
involved, it would consume more "time.") The intentions of those
folks in charge of the asylum<G> wouldn't have been nearly as suspect,
if the only new sequence to be submitted was, say, Advanced or
Sportsman. I tend toward believing that, regardless of the survey
results, there is a cadre of folks that believe the classes other than FAI and
Masters just don't warrant the attention required.<BR>And, please believe me,
this is not any kind of a slam at Ron, but you note that his idea of the "Old
Geezers Class" mentions only Masters. BTW: Ron may have been
joking, but I feel that his idea has more than a little
merit.<BR>Perhaps the other classes need an advocate specific to them?
Or an ombudsman whose efforts would encompass everyone except the
top classes?<BR><BR>Bill Glaze<BR><BR>george kennie wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite=mid3F996423.45DF9738@gis.net type="cite">Hey Bill, <BR>This
one's not even tough to figure out! The administrative people were all
coming from the ranks of the Master's class at the time the survey was done
and didn't want to be bothered with us peons. They were only interested in
fixing what they specifically were affected by and the rest of us could be
accomodated at a time convenient to their agenda, which somehow was thrown
into disarray by the everyday hum-drum of life. <BR>Not everybody is as
selfless as your bud John Ferrill! <BR>Georgie
<P>Bill Glaze wrote: </P>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="CITE">Eric: <BR>Thanks much. I just knew that I
wasn't mistaken about something that was so dear to my heart.<G>
<BR>As far as implementation, would it not have been possible to submit
the other class(es) proposed schedules just as was done with
Masters? In other words, right alongside Masters for consideration
by AMA? If this was, in fact possible, does anybody have any idea
why it wasn't done?
<P>Bill Glaze <BR> </P>
<P>Henderson,Eric wrote: </P>
<BLOCKQUOTE
cite=midE738E219A3E261479F5702D7EBBD3C57946718@bobcat.ent.gartner.com
type="cite"><PRE wrap="">Bill,
The 2002 survey and the implementation of its results fell on my shoulders. Masters(404) had several schedules designed and available that were shown for your vote. It was expected that 404 would change every three years, as per the 1999 survey.
I personally asked the question "Should we also change 401-402 on a three year basis?" You all voted yes. Now we have to come up with a way to do that.
As Ron states, the Annex system is the way we can do it.
Regards,
Eric.
P.S. We posted all the results in several places, but I will send you a copy of the word file. - E.
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</A>[<A class=moz-txt-link-freetext href="mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org">mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org</A>]On Behalf Of Ron Van Putte
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 5:58 PM
To: <A class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org
</A>Subject: Re: Schedules
Bill Glaze wrote:
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<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><PRE wrap="">I noted that only the AMA Masters class seem to be applying for a new
schedule.
One of the reasons for change was stated as being that a majority of
the membership voted for change.
The same vote tabulation stated that the other classes also wished to
see a schedule change.
Is this currently being worked on?
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Proposals for changes to the current 401 - 403 maneuver schedules were
not submitted to the AMA by NSRCA. However, IF the NSRCA Annex proposal
passes, we will have the option of changes to all maneuver schedules as
frequently as annually.
I don't remember that a majority 'voted' for changes to schedules other
than the Master class. Even so, any AMA member can submit a change
proposal. I have submitted several as an individual over the years.
One was for the takeoff direction being the pilot's option. I
submitted it three times before it finally passed on the third try, but
it did pass. So, individual proposals do get through. People need to
make proposals if they see the need for change and not rely on someone
doing it for them.
Ron Van Putte
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<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><PRE wrap="">Thanks
Bill Glaze
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