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<td><font size=1 face="sans-serif"><b>"Wayne Galligan" <wgalligan@goodsonacura.com></b></font>
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<br><font size=2 face="Courier New">Ken,<br>
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I envy you..... 15-20 contest a season to my measley ole 6 and that's<br>
stretching it for me let alone the practice time. You must be independently<br>
wealthy or have a sweet job.<br>
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Good points....<br>
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Wayne G.<br>
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----- Original Message ----- <br>
From: "Ken McGuire" <rcplanefan@yahoo.com><br>
To: <discussion@nsrca.org><br>
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 11:35 AM<br>
Subject: Re: Pattern & Imac 2003 Nationals articles in AMA Mag.<br>
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> George and all,<br>
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> This is my first post on this forum as I've been<br>
> lurking for a while. I currently fly IMAC and have<br>
> for the past 3 years. I have never flown pattern,<br>
> though I am interested in getting started. I chose to<br>
> fly IMAC because I like the "scale looking" airplanes<br>
> and love competitive aerobatics. I just wanted to<br>
> make a couple of comments on your post.<br>
><br>
> First of all, I didn't attend the NATS this year which<br>
> kind of sucks because I live in Cincinnati and would<br>
> have only had about a 2 or 3 hour drive. However,<br>
> there were 21 IMAC contests in my region (North<br>
> Central) during this past season. All of these<br>
> contests occur on weekends and, as a result, require<br>
> that I take no vacation from work to attend. The<br>
> average attendance was about 20 people--some had many<br>
> more than 30, a few had less than 20. So, at least in<br>
> my region, the competitive circuit is full. The NATS<br>
> would have required taking the better part of a week<br>
> away from work. Nah, for me I can compete in 15-20<br>
> contests during the spring, summer, and fall. No need<br>
> to skip a week of work for the NATS.<br>
><br>
> Economic reasons? Well, this has been said many times<br>
> before, but the top-of-the-line IMAC plane really<br>
> doesn't cost any more that a top-of-the-line pattern<br>
> plane. I don't think that "most" IMAC guys have<br>
> planes worth >$7500. I personally know very few.<br>
> However, most of the competitive planes are large.<br>
> Ever tried to ship one of these via the airlines?<br>
> Can't be done. Which means you have to drive to the<br>
> contest--usually towing a trailer, or ship in a crate.<br>
> Not alot of guys in California who want to do either<br>
> (and I don't blame them).<br>
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> The IMAC NATS to me is really just another contest.<br>
> And I have so many to choose from that don't require a<br>
> week away, that I chose to skip. You are correct<br>
> about one thing--the article certainly won't help<br>
> future NATS attendence. But there are plenty of other<br>
> "national" level contests to attend--the Joe Nall<br>
> Masters, JR Challenge, and Tuscon Shootout to name a<br>
> few.<br>
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> Anyway, I hope you guys realize that IMAC is really<br>
> the same type of guys as pattern flying competitive<br>
> aerobatics with a different type of plane. Same goal<br>
> in mind, though--precision flight. Please don't get<br>
> an "us vs. them" thing going. This is supposed to be<br>
> fun--it sure a hell is for me!<br>
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> Ken McGuire<br>
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> --- george kennie <geobet@gis.net> wrote:<br>
> > Boy, I had a similar reaction. After all the hype<br>
> > over the last several<br>
> > years about how Imac is the fastest growing venue of<br>
> > the sport, they had<br>
> > a total head count of 37??? C'mon, at a Nationals<br>
> > event??????????? As<br>
> > far as representatives of a SIG, it appears that<br>
> > they had absolutely<br>
> > zero support people. You can't feel that this is due<br>
> > to some economic<br>
> > condition, as all these guys seem to have airplanes<br>
> > in the >$7500<br>
> > category. It also sounds like they do not have a<br>
> > judging program to<br>
> > certify potential judges, as there were many<br>
> > complaints regarding unfair<br>
> > scoring awards, resulting in many pilots realizing<br>
> > that they had been<br>
> > unduly cheated.<br>
> > The overall tenor of the entire meet seemed to have<br>
> > a great black pall<br>
> > decend upon Muncie for the duration of their event<br>
> > with nobody leaving<br>
> > for home with a good feeling.<br>
> > This report certainly does not bode well as an<br>
> > encouraging carrot<br>
> > regarding future attendance.<br>
> > Their venue appears to require a super shot in the<br>
> > arm of administrative<br>
> > influx, if they are going to survive in a manner<br>
> > capable of sustaining<br>
> > any number base.<br>
> > It's very SAD!!!!!!!!<br>
> > Georgie<br>
> ><br>
> > Woodward James R Civ 412 TW/DRP wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> > > Hi All,<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Have you read the write up by Eric and Ed<br>
> > regarding the Pattern and<br>
> > > IMAC nats results and event running in general? I<br>
> > really enjoyed<br>
> > > reading Eric's article. When I read the IMAC<br>
> > article I thought, "Ed<br>
> > > has a lot of courage to describe the event the way<br>
> > he did." It once<br>
> > > again made me think of how lucky we are to have<br>
> > dedicated individuals<br>
> > > running our Nationals & NSRCA. Lots of times we<br>
> > start threads about<br>
> > > what needs to be changed in pattern. Given some<br>
> > things could be<br>
> > > improved; we must overall have a pretty good<br>
> > formula for getting<br>
> > > people involved & trained in judging. The<br>
> > articles are definitely<br>
> > > worth a thorough read!!<br>
> > ><br>
> > > No flame suit, just starting dialog.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Jim W.<br>
> > ><br>
> ><br>
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