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<DIV><STRONG><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" color=#0000ff>I agree here and I was
taught that takeoffs are centered but landings are to use the 30m zone. Is that
not that the intended interpretation.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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Del K. Rykert<BR> AMA - 8928
<BR> NSRCA - 473<BR> Kb2joi -
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, November 11, 2003 3:41
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Landing (was Re: Re: Spoilers
for Pattern Planes?????)</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Respectfully, I must disagree.<BR><BR>If the rules aren't being
followed, they should not be eliminated.<BR><BR>Barrel rolls and "twinkle"
rolls pretending to be snap rolls routinely get <BR>scored and should be
zeroed. Should we stop judging snaps?<BR><BR>Flopped stall turns (more
than 150 degrees off in roll axis) routinely are not <BR>zeroed. Should
we stop judging stall turns?<BR><BR>Judging is not an easy task, and there
will always be room for improvement. <BR>Where the rules are gray (no
matter how clear they seemed when originally <BR>authored) and interpreted in
various ways, there is room to clarify the rules. <BR>When the rules are
clear and ignored, they need to be politely enforced.<BR><BR>So far as landing
- we have a system for scoring centering on maneuvers and I <BR>personally
don't think we need something different for landing - it is just an
<BR>additional rule that adds needless complexity (but I will follow it as
long as <BR>it is there). Besides, at many fields, the landing zone is
never marked, or <BR>because of field layout, the landing zone is not used (in
which case landing in <BR>the zone or centering of the landing would not be
part of the judging criteria).<BR><BR>Dave Lockhart<BR><A
href="mailto:DaveL322@comcast.net">DaveL322@comcast.net</A><BR>>
Wayne:<BR>> <BR>> Exactly the point. If we can't follow the rules
to judge it properly, maybe<BR>> it's time to quit judging it. After
all, this maneuver has not changed<BR>> much, even from the early days of
pattern <VBG> So, if we STILL can't<BR>> judge it, let's
try something else....<BR>> <BR>> I see this problem at most all of the
contests every year, including the<BR>> NATS. I judge Masters class,
and find that many of the FAI judges sitting<BR>> with me don't know the
rules to judge it.<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Tony Stillman<BR>> Radio
South<BR>> 3702 N. Pace Blvd.<BR>> Pensacola, FL 32505<BR>>
1-800-962-7802<BR>> <A
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