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<DIV>In theory I completely agree with your point Earl about rewarding pilots
for hitting center for max points. In fact at my first pattern contest I thought
this was the rule. After a rather hard landing due to forcing the plane down to
hit the center line I was informed that there was a 30m box and I didn't have to
hit center. One of the reasons given for this rule was so pilots didn't have to
do what I did to get max points and potentially damage their planes. I
don't know if this was really the reason for the 30m zone or not, but it
makes sense. </DIV>
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<DIV>Intuitively one could say that if the pilot forces the landing and damages
their plane just for extra points then it's their own stupidity, but if you've
ever watched the glider guys that have to hit the center of a circle you
know that there are a lot of hard landings even from the top pilots. In
addition to this negative if you score based on centering then you'll need to
define how many points to remove per inch/foot/meter which means to do it
correctly you'll either have to draw all of the lines/circles, or have a spotter
go measure the distance from a center "X". Most of the contests I went to
this year didn't even have the 30 m lines, I can't imagine them putting down
circles if they can't put down lines, and taking a measurement after every
landing would never work.</DIV>
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<DIV>BTW, I like the scored landings, they're challenging and I think they've
improved my flying which is why I got into pattern in the first place. As to it
taking too long to setup for landing,
I've not observed at the contest I've attended. And as for
the takeoff taking longer, FAI still has to ask judges ready to takeoff, only
difference is the sitting idle rule and I don't normally see that eat much
time. If however we want to speed things up we could get rid of the idle rule
(which really does nothing other than increase the odds of a flame out). If we
did this then I don't see how takeoffs are any slower than FAI.</DIV>
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<DIV>Keith</DIV>
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<A title=EHaury@aol.com href="mailto:EHaury@aol.com">EHaury@aol.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, November 12, 2003 8:33
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Landings-THE ANSWER</DIV>
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<DIV>The really experienced (old) guys will remember when FAI used landing
zones of different diameter circles, the small center "bulls-eye" had more
points available, sort of like different K-Factors. As I recall they were 5
,10, or 15 points max.</DIV>
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<DIV>While I know and abide by the current AMA rule, and know the rational for
it being what it is, it just doesn't makes sense to me. Mis-centering
downgrades are liberally applied to narrow center maneuver and landings are
given leeway by rule. Go figure!</DIV>
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<DIV>Earl</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>