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Initially, when I first saw the Razor I thought it looked pretty stylish,
but on closer examination, a study of the specs revealed that it's a "Lanier
Venus'. Compare the WS, Fuse, Airfoil, and overall planform. Pretty cotton-pickin'
close!!! The force arrangement is also allmost spot-on, with the exception
that, with those servos in the tail, it's a little more close coupled which
makes it lose some precision to the Venus. If you like the Venus, you'll
probably like the Razor.
<br>G.
<p>rcaerobob@cox.net wrote:
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<pre WRAP>Thanks, Jim. My research has pretty well confirmed that it's probably better than the others. Then I found the Lanier Razor...it has a tapered planform, a little more fuse length, and not that fat, thick airfoil....so it's lookin pretty good. Comments?
Bob
>
> From: Woodward James R Civ 412 TW/DRP <James.Woodward2@edwards.af.mil>
> Date: 2003/12/08 Mon AM 11:29:44 EST
> To: discussion@nsrca.org
> Subject: RE: "Knockabout" -40-50 Sized Pattern
>
> Hi Bob,
>
>
>
> I 2nd the Global Freestyle. I used an Irvine .53 and had unlimited
> performance with the muffler's internal baffle removed, 15% cool power.
> This plane can do the slow-flight 3D stuff but can also point roll. I have
> a Hype 3D which is noted on RCU as a better flyer than the Flip 3D.
> However, the Hype cannot do point rolls and has SEVERE rudder induced roll &
> pitch couple (3D's great though). I think the Global Freestyle is a better
> strike between the "Venus" and the "Flip 3D" type of planes.
>
> Jim W.
>
> Subject: "Knockabout" -40-50 Sized Pattern
>
>
>
> After some surfing...and some emails...(thanks everyone)...here's a short
> list...a "pattern" plane, but also capable of some throwing around semi-3D
> stuff....that's the target!!!
>
> I'd really appreciate hearing from anyone (off list would be just fine)
> who has experience with ANY of these...pros and cons. Here goes...
>
>
>
> Kyosho Majestic 1400
>
> Kyosho Flip 3D
>
> Great Planes Venus
>
> Great Planes U CanDo3D 46
>
> World Models - Tai Jai 40
>
> World Models - Zen 50
>
> Cermark Javelin
>
> Giant Scale Planes Giles 200-3D
>
> Giant Scale Planes Magpie
>
> Giant Scale Planes Lark
>
>
>
> I'm sure there are others I've overlooked, but any feedback on these would
> be helpful!
>
>
>
>
> Bob Pastorello, Oklahoma
> NSRCA 199, AMA 46373
> rcaerobob@cox.net <<a href="mailto:rcaerobob@cox.net">mailto:rcaerobob@cox.net</a>>
> www.rcaerobats.net <<a href="http://www.rcaerobats.net">http://www.rcaerobats.net</a>>
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Bob Pastorello, El Reno, OK, USA
rcaerobob@cox.net
www.rcaerobats.net</pre>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><font face="Arial"><font color="#000080"><font size=-1>Hi
Bob,</font></font></font></span></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><font face="Arial"><font color="#000080"><font size=-1>I
2nd the Global Freestyle. I used an </span><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Irvine</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>
.53 and had unlimited performance with the muffler's internal baffle removed,
15% cool power. This plane can do the slow-flight 3D stuff but can
also point roll. I have a Hype 3D which is noted on RCU as a better
flyer than the Flip 3D. However, the Hype cannot do point rolls and
has SEVERE rudder induced roll & pitch couple (3D's great though).
I think the Global Freestyle is a better strike between the "Venus" and
the "Flip 3D" type of planes.</font></font></font></span>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><font face="Arial"><font color="#000080"><font size=-1>Jim
W.</font></font></font></span>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'><font face="Tahoma"><font size=-1><b>Subject:</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'></b>
"Knockabout" -40-50 Sized Pattern</font></font></span>
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<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>After
some surfing...and some emails...(thanks everyone)...here's a short list...a
"pattern" plane, but also capable of some throwing around semi-3D stuff....that's
the target!!!</font></font></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>
I'd really appreciate hearing from anyone (off list would be just fine)
who has experience with ANY of these...pros and cons. Here goes...</font></font></span></div>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>Kyosho
Majestic 1400</font></font></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>Kyosho
Flip 3D</font></font></span></div>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>Great
Planes Venus </font></font></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>Great
Planes U CanDo3D 46</font></font></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>World
Models - Tai Jai 40</font></font></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>World
Models - Zen 50</font></font></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>Cermark
Javelin</font></font></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>Giant
Scale Planes Giles 200-3D</font></font></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>Giant
Scale Planes Magpie</font></font></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>Giant
Scale Planes Lark</font></font></span></div>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>I'm
sure there are others I've overlooked, but any feedback on these would
be helpful!</font></font></span></div>
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<br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>Bob Pastorello, Oklahoma</font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>NSRCA 199, AMA 46373</font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1><a href="mailto:rcaerobob@cox.net">rcaerobob@cox.net</a></font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1><a href="http://www.rcaerobats.net">www.rcaerobats.net</a></font></font></span>
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