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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I can't believe they wouldn't have a good
simulation and therefore know it was going to fly before they spent all the time
and effort building it. Perhaps there is so little margin that if the wind
isn't within a very tight tolerance it won't fly. But they should have
known that.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>It seems to me if it had the proper airspeed and
angle of attack it would lift off. I'd love to see a failure analysis
performed like we used to do if a missile failed. Each engineer had to
prove his component or subsytem was not the cause. Guilty until proven
innocent.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Now if you really want to stir things up, what if
the conclusion is the original didn't fly? I wouldn't be surprised
if the French are working on proving that right now.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Jim</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=Eric.Henderson@gartner.com
href="mailto:Eric.Henderson@gartner.com">Henderson,Eric</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, December 18, 2003 4:48
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: Wright Flyer.</DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=267084300-19122003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I
don't seem to be provoking the responses that I was looking for. (I have no
issue with the achievement or the replication).</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=267084300-19122003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
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<DIV><SPAN class=267084300-19122003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>What
I am really interested in the ways to get the plane to fly better and if
anyone saw it as a CG issue? I thought that the collective knowledge pool in
this list might have some ideas on fixing the flyability
issue.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=267084300-19122003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Regards,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=267084300-19122003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=267084300-19122003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Eric.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> discussion-request@nsrca.org
[mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org]<B>On Behalf Of
</B>Rcmaster199@aol.com<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, December 18, 2003 7:40
PM<BR><B>To:</B> discussion@nsrca.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Wright
Flyer.<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT lang=0 face=Arial
size=2 PTSIZE="10" FAMILY="SANSSERIF">In a message dated 12/18/2003 10:00:06
AM Eastern Standard Time, Eric.Henderson@gartner.com writes:<BR><BR><BR>
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TYPE="CITE">Subj:<B>Wright Flyer. </B><BR>Date:12/18/2003 10:00:06 AM
Eastern Standard Time<BR>From:<A
href="mailto:Eric.Henderson@gartner.com">Eric.Henderson@gartner.com</A><BR>Reply-to:<A
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A><BR>To:<A
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A><BR><I>Sent from
the Internet </I><BR><BR><BR><BR></FONT><FONT lang=0
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2
PTSIZE="10" FAMILY="SANSSERIF" BACK="#ffffff">I have been avidly following
the progress of the Wright Flyer replica. It's driving me nuts watching them
try to fly it. (Is there an aeronautical engineer on the project? - looks a
lot like pilots and carpenters)</FONT><FONT lang=0
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#0000ff size=3
PTSIZE="12" FAMILY="SANSSERIF" BACK="#ffffff"><BR><BR><BR></FONT><FONT
lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2
PTSIZE="10" FAMILY="SANSSERIF" BACK="#ffffff">From where I sit, admittedly
in my arm chair, the thing looks, acts and flies very TAIL HEAVY!
</FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=3 PTSIZE="12" FAMILY="SANSSERIF"
BACK="#ffffff"><BR><BR></FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff"
face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2 PTSIZE="10" FAMILY="SANSSERIF"
BACK="#ffffff">The engines are behind the CG on the wings. There's almost
nothing up front to bring the CG to a decent stable point. Am I off base
here?</FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=3 PTSIZE="12" FAMILY="SANSSERIF"
BACK="#ffffff"><BR><BR></FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff"
face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2 PTSIZE="10" FAMILY="SANSSERIF"
BACK="#ffffff">Also I have meddled with models of the plane a little. Wing
warping that goes only goes down induces worse wash-in at the slowest of
speeds and is pretty nasty in the model. Instead of lifting the wing it
drags it back making the plane turn adversely to the intended input. I know
that they were trying to fly an exact replica so they went with everything
as true to history as possible, but it is frustrating watching it
struggle.</FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=3 PTSIZE="12" FAMILY="SANSSERIF"
BACK="#ffffff"><BR><BR></FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff"
face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2 PTSIZE="10" FAMILY="SANSSERIF"
BACK="#ffffff">Any thoughts,</FONT><FONT lang=0
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#0000ff size=3
PTSIZE="12" FAMILY="SANSSERIF" BACK="#ffffff"><BR><BR></FONT><FONT lang=0
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2
PTSIZE="10" FAMILY="SANSSERIF" BACK="#ffffff">Regards,</FONT><FONT lang=0
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#0000ff size=3
PTSIZE="12" FAMILY="SANSSERIF" BACK="#ffffff"><BR></FONT><FONT lang=0
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2
PTSIZE="10" FAMILY="SANSSERIF" BACK="#ffffff"><BR>Eric.<BR><BR></FONT><FONT
lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#0000ff size=3
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lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#000000 size=2
PTSIZE="10" FAMILY="SANSSERIF" BACK="#ffffff"><BR>ALL THE MORE REASON TO
MARVEL AT THE ORIGINAL ACCOMPLISHMENT<BR><BR>mattk</FONT>
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