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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Watch the History channels stuff on it...The Utah
State guys improved the original...and they found a major CG problem with the
pilot laying down the wing....So they moved him ahead of the wing...Solved the
pitchy problems....They also made major changes to the plane like air foils and
materials...and a Harley engine with 65hp. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>They flew it a bunch and were making normal flights
with it...including turns and so on. Actually flying around and buzzing the
field. I think I they said over 200 flights on the plane....It had some failures
early on but seems to be a cool replica. The Grad student in charge wanted to
improve upon the Wrights work and make a better plane....</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The idea was to not do what had already been
done...It was build on the work already done. That is what Wilbur and Orvil
did...The trashed the 1903 plane after the 4th flight and the wind damage and
went home to build the a better version with what they learned in about 90 secs
of flying the 1903 plane.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Cool stuff.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I'm a Aero freak and I love this stuff. I have
watched the shows 3-4 times and will continue. These might be ones I actually
spend the $30 on and purchase from the History channel.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>TN</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><B>From:</B> <A title=Eric.Henderson@gartner.com
href="mailto:Eric.Henderson@gartner.com">Henderson,Eric</A> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, December 18, 2003 7:48
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: Wright Flyer.</DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=267084300-19122003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I
don't seem to be provoking the responses that I was looking for. (I have no
issue with the achievement or the replication).</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=267084300-19122003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>What
I am really interested in the ways to get the plane to fly better and if
anyone saw it as a CG issue? I thought that the collective knowledge pool in
this list might have some ideas on fixing the flyability
issue.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=267084300-19122003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Regards,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=267084300-19122003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Eric.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> discussion-request@nsrca.org
[mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org]<B>On Behalf Of
</B>Rcmaster199@aol.com<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, December 18, 2003 7:40
PM<BR><B>To:</B> discussion@nsrca.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Wright
Flyer.<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT lang=0 face=Arial
size=2 PTSIZE="10" FAMILY="SANSSERIF">In a message dated 12/18/2003 10:00:06
AM Eastern Standard Time, Eric.Henderson@gartner.com writes:<BR><BR><BR>
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TYPE="CITE">Subj:<B>Wright Flyer. </B><BR>Date:12/18/2003 10:00:06 AM
Eastern Standard Time<BR>From:<A
href="mailto:Eric.Henderson@gartner.com">Eric.Henderson@gartner.com</A><BR>Reply-to:<A
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A><BR>To:<A
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A><BR><I>Sent from
the Internet </I><BR><BR><BR><BR></FONT><FONT lang=0
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2
PTSIZE="10" FAMILY="SANSSERIF" BACK="#ffffff">I have been avidly following
the progress of the Wright Flyer replica. It's driving me nuts watching them
try to fly it. (Is there an aeronautical engineer on the project? - looks a
lot like pilots and carpenters)</FONT><FONT lang=0
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#0000ff size=3
PTSIZE="12" FAMILY="SANSSERIF" BACK="#ffffff"><BR><BR><BR></FONT><FONT
lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2
PTSIZE="10" FAMILY="SANSSERIF" BACK="#ffffff">From where I sit, admittedly
in my arm chair, the thing looks, acts and flies very TAIL HEAVY!
</FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=3 PTSIZE="12" FAMILY="SANSSERIF"
BACK="#ffffff"><BR><BR></FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff"
face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2 PTSIZE="10" FAMILY="SANSSERIF"
BACK="#ffffff">The engines are behind the CG on the wings. There's almost
nothing up front to bring the CG to a decent stable point. Am I off base
here?</FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=3 PTSIZE="12" FAMILY="SANSSERIF"
BACK="#ffffff"><BR><BR></FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff"
face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2 PTSIZE="10" FAMILY="SANSSERIF"
BACK="#ffffff">Also I have meddled with models of the plane a little. Wing
warping that goes only goes down induces worse wash-in at the slowest of
speeds and is pretty nasty in the model. Instead of lifting the wing it
drags it back making the plane turn adversely to the intended input. I know
that they were trying to fly an exact replica so they went with everything
as true to history as possible, but it is frustrating watching it
struggle.</FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=3 PTSIZE="12" FAMILY="SANSSERIF"
BACK="#ffffff"><BR><BR></FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff"
face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2 PTSIZE="10" FAMILY="SANSSERIF"
BACK="#ffffff">Any thoughts,</FONT><FONT lang=0
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#0000ff size=3
PTSIZE="12" FAMILY="SANSSERIF" BACK="#ffffff"><BR><BR></FONT><FONT lang=0
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2
PTSIZE="10" FAMILY="SANSSERIF" BACK="#ffffff">Regards,</FONT><FONT lang=0
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#0000ff size=3
PTSIZE="12" FAMILY="SANSSERIF" BACK="#ffffff"><BR></FONT><FONT lang=0
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2
PTSIZE="10" FAMILY="SANSSERIF" BACK="#ffffff"><BR>Eric.<BR><BR></FONT><FONT
lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#0000ff size=3
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lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#000000 size=2
PTSIZE="10" FAMILY="SANSSERIF" BACK="#ffffff"><BR>ALL THE MORE REASON TO
MARVEL AT THE ORIGINAL ACCOMPLISHMENT<BR><BR>mattk</FONT>
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