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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Eric,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Didn't mean to pick at your note. I was just
very disappointed that they didn't get off the ground. They had to know
they needed the headwind. Why did they try anyway?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Your original question about cg will be evident
when they do get off the ground. What I have heard is the Wrights were
more concerned about control than stability and perhaps they have enough control
at the right airspeed to handle the instability for a short time.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Jim</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=Eric.Henderson@gartner.com
href="mailto:Eric.Henderson@gartner.com">Henderson,Eric</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, December 19, 2003 8:10
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: Wright Flyer.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=231550416-19122003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>The
point of the note was to analyze how the plane flew and not generate
geo-political disrespect of the original achievement or the replication. I
guess it is more fun, for some, to pick at my note rather than discuss
aerodynamics. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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class=231550416-19122003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> <A
href="mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org">discussion-request@nsrca.org</A>
[mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Ed
Miller<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, December 19, 2003 5:10 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
discussion@nsrca.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Wright Flyer.<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The spirit and intent was and is to replicate the
Wright Flyer, and hopefully that historic moment of flight to the exact detail
on the history making 100th anniversary. Sure, 100 years later even a
bunch of ARF building modelers can think of ways to improve the Wright
Flyer, but that isn't the point of this exercise. Without the Wright Flyer and
the vision and determination of the Wright brothers, we might not be here
to arm chair quarterback this. This team of "pilots and
carpenters" 100 years later possess the skills, determination and most
importantly the desire to try and re-create one of the most significant
events in human history. Re-creating the Wright Flyer down to the level and
detail this team has including building a replication of the original engine,
surely displays this team engineering prowess. The Wright Brothers did
not have 100 years of aeronautical theory and design to fall back on, every
step forward they took was a step into un-chartered waters and we today reap
the benefits of their dedication and perseverance. This team approached this
monumental task with the same mindset. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>When the wind and humidity is right and lady luck
is on their side ( exactly what the Wright brothers had 100 years ago ), they
will successfully fly the Wright Flyer re-creation. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Everything you enjoy about flight came from the
Wright Flyer and the vision of the Wright Brothers. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Pay the team 100 years later the respect they
deserve in trying to bring to all of us that magic moment.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ed M.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=Eric.Henderson@gartner.com
href="mailto:Eric.Henderson@gartner.com">Henderson,Eric</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, December 18, 2003 9:59
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Wright Flyer.</DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=092404614-18122003><FONT face=Arial><FONT
color=#0000ff><FONT size=2> I<SPAN class=092404614-18122003> have been
avidly following the progress of the Wright Flyer replica. It's driving me
nuts watching them try to fly it. (Is there an aeronautical engineer on the
project? - looks a lot like pilots and
carpenters)</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=092404614-18122003><FONT face=Arial><FONT
color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=092404614-18122003></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=092404614-18122003><FONT face=Arial><FONT
color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=092404614-18122003></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=092404614-18122003><FONT face=Arial><FONT
color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN class=092404614-18122003>From where I
sit, admittedly in my arm chair, the thing looks, acts and flies very TAIL
HEAVY! </SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=092404614-18122003><FONT face=Arial><FONT
color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=092404614-18122003></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=092404614-18122003><FONT face=Arial><FONT
color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN class=092404614-18122003>The engines are
behind the CG on the wings. There's almost nothing up front to bring the CG
to a decent stable point. Am I off base
here?</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=092404614-18122003><FONT face=Arial><FONT
color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=092404614-18122003></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=092404614-18122003><FONT face=Arial><FONT
color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN class=092404614-18122003>Also I have
meddled with models of the plane a little. Wing warping that goes only goes
down induces worse wash-in at the slowest of speeds and is pretty nasty in
the model. Instead of lifting the wing it drags it back making the plane
turn adversely to the intended input. I know that they were trying to fly an
exact replica so they went with everything as true to history as possible,
but it is frustrating watching it
struggle.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=092404614-18122003><FONT face=Arial><FONT
color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=092404614-18122003></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=092404614-18122003><FONT face=Arial><FONT
color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN class=092404614-18122003>Any
thoughts,</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=092404614-18122003><FONT face=Arial><FONT
color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=092404614-18122003></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=092404614-18122003><FONT face=Arial><FONT
color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=092404614-18122003>Regards,</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV><SPAN
class=092404614-18122003><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT
size=2><SPAN class=092404614-18122003>
<DIV><BR>Eric.</DIV>
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