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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Unfortunately 12/17/2003 only comes along once,
they did what they had to considering all the press and paying spectators. They
played the only hand dealt on the anniversary date. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ed M.</FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=Eric.Henderson@gartner.com
href="mailto:Eric.Henderson@gartner.com">Henderson,Eric</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, December 19, 2003 1:27
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: Wright Flyer.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=801211518-19122003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Jim,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=801211518-19122003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2> I didn't see any of your
postings that way. I do think that there was an inherent responsibility in the
replication effort to actually get it to fly. Waiting for more wind would have
been prudent. Using flight expertise other than pilots. My point is that I'll
wager that any proficient RC pattern modeler could have
diagnosed the condition and made sure that it flew when in put the eye of
the world. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=801211518-19122003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=801211518-19122003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>The
last thing I want is to encourage the French to resurrect their claims.
(Remember that the peace after the 115 years war with France is only a
temporary aberration - John Cleese) :-)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=801211518-19122003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=801211518-19122003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Any
news that they succeeded in getting in a recorded flight would be most
welcome.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=801211518-19122003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=801211518-19122003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Regards,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=801211518-19122003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2><BR>Eric.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
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size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> discussion-request@nsrca.org
[mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org]<B>On Behalf Of
</B>JOddino<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, December 19, 2003 12:58 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
discussion@nsrca.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Wright Flyer.<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Eric,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Didn't mean to pick at your note. I was
just very disappointed that they didn't get off the ground. They had to
know they needed the headwind. Why did they try anyway?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Your original question about cg will be evident
when they do get off the ground. What I have heard is the Wrights were
more concerned about control than stability and perhaps they have enough
control at the right airspeed to handle the instability for a short
time.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Jim</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=Eric.Henderson@gartner.com
href="mailto:Eric.Henderson@gartner.com">Henderson,Eric</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, December 19, 2003 8:10
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: Wright Flyer.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=231550416-19122003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>The point of the note was to analyze how the plane flew and not
generate geo-political disrespect of the original achievement or the
replication. I guess it is more fun, for some, to pick at my note rather
than discuss aerodynamics. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=231550416-19122003></SPAN><SPAN
class=231550416-19122003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> <A
href="mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org">discussion-request@nsrca.org</A>
[mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Ed
Miller<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, December 19, 2003 5:10 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
discussion@nsrca.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Wright
Flyer.<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The spirit and intent was and is to replicate
the Wright Flyer, and hopefully that historic moment of flight to the exact
detail on the history making 100th anniversary. Sure, 100 years later
even a bunch of ARF building modelers can think of ways to improve the
Wright Flyer, but that isn't the point of this exercise. Without the Wright
Flyer and the vision and determination of the Wright brothers, we might not
be here to arm chair quarterback this. This team of "pilots and
carpenters" 100 years later possess the skills, determination and most
importantly the desire to try and re-create one of the most significant
events in human history. Re-creating the Wright Flyer down to the level and
detail this team has including building a replication of the original
engine, surely displays this team engineering prowess. The Wright
Brothers did not have 100 years of aeronautical theory and design to
fall back on, every step forward they took was a step into un-chartered
waters and we today reap the benefits of their dedication and perseverance.
This team approached this monumental task with the same mindset.
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>When the wind and humidity is right and lady
luck is on their side ( exactly what the Wright brothers had 100 years ago
), they will successfully fly the Wright Flyer re-creation. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Everything you enjoy about flight came from the
Wright Flyer and the vision of the Wright Brothers. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Pay the team 100 years later the respect they
deserve in trying to bring to all of us that magic moment.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ed M.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=Eric.Henderson@gartner.com
href="mailto:Eric.Henderson@gartner.com">Henderson,Eric</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, December 18, 2003
9:59 AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Wright Flyer.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=092404614-18122003><FONT face=Arial><FONT
color=#0000ff><FONT size=2> I<SPAN class=092404614-18122003> have
been avidly following the progress of the Wright Flyer replica. It's
driving me nuts watching them try to fly it. (Is there an aeronautical
engineer on the project? - looks a lot like pilots and
carpenters)</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=092404614-18122003><FONT face=Arial><FONT
color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=092404614-18122003></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=092404614-18122003><FONT face=Arial><FONT
color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=092404614-18122003></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=092404614-18122003><FONT face=Arial><FONT
color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN class=092404614-18122003>From
where I sit, admittedly in my arm chair, the thing looks, acts and
flies very TAIL HEAVY! </SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=092404614-18122003><FONT face=Arial><FONT
color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=092404614-18122003></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=092404614-18122003><FONT face=Arial><FONT
color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN class=092404614-18122003>The engines are
behind the CG on the wings. There's almost nothing up front to bring the
CG to a decent stable point. Am I off base
here?</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=092404614-18122003><FONT face=Arial><FONT
color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=092404614-18122003></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=092404614-18122003><FONT face=Arial><FONT
color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN class=092404614-18122003>Also I have
meddled with models of the plane a little. Wing warping that goes only
goes down induces worse wash-in at the slowest of speeds and is pretty
nasty in the model. Instead of lifting the wing it drags it back making
the plane turn adversely to the intended input. I know that they were
trying to fly an exact replica so they went with everything as true to
history as possible, but it is frustrating watching it
struggle.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=092404614-18122003><FONT face=Arial><FONT
color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=092404614-18122003></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=092404614-18122003><FONT face=Arial><FONT
color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN class=092404614-18122003>Any
thoughts,</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=092404614-18122003><FONT face=Arial><FONT
color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=092404614-18122003></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=092404614-18122003><FONT face=Arial><FONT
color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=092404614-18122003>Regards,</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV><SPAN
class=092404614-18122003><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT
size=2><SPAN class=092404614-18122003>
<DIV><BR>Eric.</DIV>
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