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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>If lateral balance is attained with assymetric
weight distribution then the plane would be dynamically unbalanced, that is
there would be assymetric forces during accelerated roll . I suppose this might
be noticeable with significant assymetric weight distribution, but probably not
with what we are talking about. Mike Nauman where are you ?</FONT></DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=jhughes@hsonline.net href="mailto:jhughes@hsonline.net">Jeff
Hughes</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, January 13, 2004 10:03
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Sideways engine?</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I flew an Arch Nemisis with a st2300 at the 7:30
location and you couldn't tell any difference. As long as the plane is
balanced lateraly it really doesn't know where the cylinder head
is.</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=James.Woodward2@edwards.af.mil
href="mailto:James.Woodward2@edwards.af.mil">Woodward James R Civ 412
TW/DRP</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, January 13, 2004 12:22
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: Sideways engine?</DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I think Ron Ellis
flew Sam Turners first Saturn with the ST2300 positioned at the
</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">07:30</SPAN></FONT><FONT
face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> spot, and original
muffler down the center. </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Jim
W.</SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original
Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> John
Ferrell [<A
href="mailto:johnferrell@earthlink.net">mailto:johnferrell@earthlink.net</A>]
<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Tuesday, January 13,
2004 11:19 AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> <A
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: Sideways
engine?</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">That makes sense to me. I am
really surprised that the question did not get a bigger response though.
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I am way too lazy to conduct any
testing on my own. I probably lack the skill necessary to discern the
difference any way.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">John Ferrell<BR>6241 Phillippi
Rd<BR>Julian NC 27283<BR>Phone: (336)685-9606<BR><A
href="mailto:johnferrell@earthlink.net">johnferrell@earthlink.net</A><BR><A
href="http://DixieNC.US">http://DixieNC.US</A><BR>NSRCA 479 AMA 4190
W8CCW<BR>"My Competition is Not My Enemy"</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A
title=geobet@gis.net href="mailto:geobet@gis.net">george kennie</A>
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face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A
title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A>
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size=2><SPAN
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Tuesday, January 13, 2004 1:30 PM</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Subject:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> Re:
Sideways engine?</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">John, <BR>I'm not sure if I'm right
on this, but I think that I would like to have all that Mass(bulk &
weight of the engine head) located on the centerline of the aircraft.I
think that all that off-center mass could produce some unexpected and
unwanted effects during snap type maneuvers(and probably others) where
radical changes in aircraft speed differentials might magnify the
off-center forces in a detrimental way causing exagerated pitch and roll
responces making control during certain maneuvers difficult to compensate
for. I don't have any empirical data to back any of this up, but it just
doesn't feel right to me. <BR>Georgie </SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">John Ferrell wrote: </SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">From Eric's
recent post on another topic:<FONT color=blue><SPAN
style="COLOR: blue">Mounts his engine sideways> Uses a more
regular header etc.</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN
style="COLOR: black">I have forgotten what the advantages are to
inverted engine mounting. Like the matter of retracts which seems to
have</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=blue><SPAN style="COLOR: blue">
</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN style="COLOR: black">become a
personal choice, I wonder if it really matters to the flying
characteristics. An engine on its side is more tolerant of flooding,
easier the plumb the exhaust, easier to connect/disconnect the glow
plug.</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></FONT> <FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I expect that it would spin
& snap differently depending on direction, but that seems to be the
norm with the engine inverted too.</SPAN></FONT> <FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">John
Ferrell</SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">6241 Phillippi
Rd</SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Julian NC
27283</SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Phone:
(336)685-9606</SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><A
href="mailto:johnferrell@earthlink.net">johnferrell@earthlink.net</A></SPAN></FONT>
<BR><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><A
href="http://DixieNC.US">http://DixieNC.US</A></SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">NSRCA 479 AMA 4190
W8CCW</SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">"My Competition is Not My
Enemy"</SPAN></FONT></P></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>