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<DIV><SPAN class=547352922-14012004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Hi
Bob,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=547352922-14012004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Maybe
Ron Chidgey or someone with dealings at FAI, at the time, would know the real
reason, but ...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=547352922-14012004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I
suspect it was arbitrary, and represented a nice round number that would require
some effort to keep under 5 kg.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=547352922-14012004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>At
that point, Peter Erang's 2-M 60-powered ship was the biggest ship anyone had
seen, including Dave vo Linsowe's USA Star.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=547352922-14012004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Regards,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=547352922-14012004> <FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Dean P.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Bob Pastorello
[mailto:rcaerobob@cox.net]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January 14, 2004 5:07
PM<BR><B>To:</B> discussion@nsrca.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: "How we GOT" away
from a "Sideways engine"?<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thank you, Dean. I know you're one of those
with NOT "faded memories"....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> FYI - although I was NEVER
able to really, truly, authenticate the reason for the 2M x 2M rule, one can
find a very real, and plausible explanation, by investigating international
metric housing design "standards"....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> One *could* discover that
nearly ALL door frames in the known universe are at LEAST 2M of vertical
opening.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> A thought to
ponder....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR>Bob Pastorello, Oklahoma<BR>NSRCA 199, AMA 46373<BR><A
href="mailto:rcaerobob@cox.net">rcaerobob@cox.net</A><BR><A
href="http://www.rcaerobats.net">www.rcaerobats.net</A></DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=d.pappas@kodeos.com href="mailto:d.pappas@kodeos.com">Dean
Pappas</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January 14, 2004 2:49
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: "How we GOT" away from a
"Sideways engine"?</DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=398364720-14012004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Bob,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=398364720-14012004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>It
is so good to hear some question the, "We always did it that way" that so
often seems to be the reason we do things the way we do
them.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=398364720-14012004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Regards,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=398364720-14012004> <FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Dean P.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Bob Pastorello
[mailto:rcaerobob@cox.net]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January 14, 2004
3:47 PM<BR><B>To:</B> NSRCA<BR><B>Subject:</B> Fw: "How we GOT" away from
a "Sideways engine"?<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><B>From:</B> <A title=rcaerobob@cox.net
href="mailto:rcaerobob@cox.net">Bob Pastorello</A> </DIV>
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<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January 14, 2004 2:42 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: Sideways engine?</DIV></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Inverting the engines goes back quite a
ways.....When pattern was still seeking "sleek", "slim", and "fast", it
was known rear-exhaust technologies of the day produced more power, AND,
one could have a slimmer fuselage. Some may recall piped-60 setups
that would not permit a KPS-14II servo to be mounted abeam the middle of
the fuse!!!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> Once the rear exhaust
motor designers caught up, well, it was pretty much history. Side
mount airframes were seen to be "ugly", "not clean", "draggy", etc.
(however many may disagree with the scientific reasons)...so the PLANE
designers hung in there, practically making things IMPOSSIBLE but with a
rear-exhaust motor...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> Then, to combat
one-piece-wing-wear, pipe-coupler-damage, etc., the next evolution went to
plug-in wings, also because it was "proven" that a higher wing (more
centrally-located toward the centerline) was "better"; and so it stayed
until the 4C arrived on the scene.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> A history of how motor and
airframe designs evolved in the last 40 years would be VERY interesting to
some....many of the things we do now "because", are simply hangers-on to
"that's the way it is done", and rationale or reason behind the original
change is obscured in faded memories of those no longer in the game, or
passed on....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR>Bob Pastorello, Oklahoma<BR>NSRCA 199, AMA 46373<BR><A
href="mailto:rcaerobob@cox.net">rcaerobob@cox.net</A><BR><A
href="http://www.rcaerobats.net">www.rcaerobats.net</A></DIV>
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<A title=billglaze@triad.rr.com
href="mailto:billglaze@triad.rr.com">Bill Glaze</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January 14, 2004
3:13 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Sideways engine?</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Del:<BR>Excellent point. I sometimes find myself
trying to pick the flyspecks out of pepper, when time would be better
spent practicing. As John Ferrell said elsewhere about his flying
skills, my skill level also is not such as to see any difference in my
side mounted Moki and my inverted Y.S. engines in my rather limited
flight regime of Intermediate. The Moki (1.8) is in a Midwest CAP
232 and I also have a R.C America CAP with a Moki 2.1 in it.
Neither have any bad tendencies I can attribute to the sideways engine
placement.<BR><BR>Bill Glaze.<BR><BR>Del K. Rykert wrote:<BR>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Some good points.. Not sure I could ever
justify the time and expense getting the answer. Time on the sticks
through focused practice is still where my time earns biggest result.
< VBG >.</FONT></DIV>
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