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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Eric,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I would love to fly some more Artistic Aerobatics
stuff in competition. I actually have a dedicated AA model now. I'm not the
torque roll around my ankles kind of guy but I can do some cool
stuff.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I heard a comment about the last TOC....Quique's
freestyle was in my opinion the absolute best I have seen. The Comment was
Quique gave us Swan Lake, but the crowd wanted monster trucks.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>This is where I see the differences in the big
models and Pattern style models. After being in South for a while I think I have
a little Red Neck in me now and I can use a little monster truck action once in
a while...but I view the technology and the pattern type models as the Indy Car
or the F-1 setups.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Everybody seems to think that you need to do 3D to
fly Artistic stuff. You don't need to as Chad and I tried to show.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I'm up for some AA anytime and anyplace.
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Troy</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=Eric.Henderson@gartner.com
href="mailto:Eric.Henderson@gartner.com">Henderson,Eric</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, January 23, 2004 11:22
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: Artistic Aerobatics</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=177470718-23012004>Bill,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=177470718-23012004> It's not
fair to say the vote was ignored.The vote occurred just before the
change-cycle for the AMA closed. there was absolutely no way to propose
complete schedule and ascending schedule changes in the time
available.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=177470718-23012004></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=177470718-23012004>The
lead time to make new schedules took over a year the last time we did them. A
sub-committee, split into two teams, and did approx.. four schedules for
each class. They were tested and tested, and then voted on at sub-committee
level. the winners were narrowed down and voted on at the NSRCA board
level and finally sent out in the NSRCA survey as structured groups of
schedule options for the NSRCA membership to vote on. ( We all got the same
stipend for all of the work!)</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=177470718-23012004></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=177470718-23012004>The
next window when the voted-on-change-all-schedules-change can be proposed to
the AMA is in two years time. The Annex proposal, if it passes,
should help us a lot in this process. But if we want to design what we
fly, it almost behooves us to start designing now. Tony understand this stuff.
He had the vision and was the one that commissioned the original
sub-committees long before I got the job of finishing
them.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=177470718-23012004></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=177470718-23012004>Regards,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=177470718-23012004></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=177470718-23012004>Eric.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=177470718-23012004></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> discussion-request@nsrca.org
[mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Bill
Glaze<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, January 23, 2004 1:25 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
discussion@nsrca.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Artistic
Aerobatics<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>Interesting, that this subject should come
up.<BR>I feel that a big factor, would be the very thing that is under
our noses. (admittedly, some few will object to the idea)<BR>Change the
flight sequences at least every 3 years, as the questionnaire said. Said
questionnaire was ignored in this particular, in the last rules cycle for all
but (significantly) Masters. And, of course, FAI.<BR>It would help in
the boredom category. IMHO, it would help much more than looking at
pattern airplanes flop all over the sky. But then, who am I? I
haven't even done a great job of what we're flying now.<G><BR>In any
event, Eric, I sure appreciate that you're so active in the idea
dept.<BR><BR>Bill Glaze<BR>NSRCA 2388<BR>AMA 2221<BR>IMAC
1624<BR>N7WWS<BR><BR>Henderson,Eric wrote:<BR>
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<DIV><SPAN class=698583514-23012004><FONT face=Arial><FONT
color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN class=698583514-23012004>As some of you may
know I ran an FAI-FG1 event a couple of years ago at the Nat's after
the finals. Quique, Troy and Chad Northeast put on a really great show
for us while we waited for the Masters and FAI
results.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=698583514-23012004><FONT face=Arial><FONT
color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN class=698583514-23012004>I have not heard
much about this event type since then. I was wondering if the FAI adopted it
or not.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=698583514-23012004><FONT face=Arial><FONT
color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN class=698583514-23012004>Flying a pattern
type plane to music is very attractive. It is one of the few times where the
plane does not drown-out the music! More correctly said, the planes have to
comply with size weight and sound FAI regulations. They do not actually have
to be what we fly in a pattern contest. Some guys use the same planes and
swap-in 3-D wings and stabs. They often change their
props.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=698583514-23012004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>It
is, of course, the rest-of-the-world's version of IMAC
freestyle.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=698583514-23012004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I
have written, <EM>not without a shot or two across my bows</EM>, that the
delineator between precision aerobatics and scale aerobatics is that pattern
is based on practicing the routine, a lot! </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=698583514-23012004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I
see IMAC pilots practicing tailslides and Harriers and torque rolls, but
rarely the routines they fly. In particular, wannabe IMAC pilots fly the
hover stuff for most of their flights. Once in a while I "push my luck" and
I ask them why they practice most, the thing that they will do least, in a
contest. (Maybe once in a freestyle routine at the end of an event).
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=698583514-23012004>The answer always is, "Because I want to get better
at it and it is fun". Are they having more fun than us? I know that
watching a loud plane hover over the runway is fun for a while but it gets
old pretty quick and even becomes annoying. A bit like when we played our
</SPAN>4<SPAN class=698583514-23012004>5's on repeat. We coul listen to the
same song, that we had just purchased, but our allegedly tone-deaf fathers
were soon motivated to become "discus"
throwers!!!!</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=698583514-23012004>The question is still out there however, "Are we
boring?" and "Do we, (pattern pilots), need be more
watchable"???</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=698583514-23012004>Regards, it is still winter -
Eric.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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