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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>That's a very interesting way to look at
it.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Keith Black</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=xavier.mouraux@sympatico.ca
href="mailto:xavier.mouraux@sympatico.ca">Xavier Mouraux</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, February 09, 2004 6:09
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Sitting in the plane or not
?</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>This is an interesting discussion. I am glad I
asked.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Playing on the simulator 2 years ago, I found a
trick that works in any direction for the rudder in inverted
flight.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I imagine the tip of the rudder stick is attached
to the end of the plane closest to me. That could be the tail, the nose or a
wing tip. If I want to move that part of the plane one way or the other, I
just move the stick that way.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>It worked for me</FONT><FONT face=Arial
size=2> and after a while, I didn't have to think about it anymore, it
became automatic (most of the time :-)</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Xavier</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=tkeithb@comcast.net href="mailto:tkeithb@comcast.net">Keith
Black</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, February 09, 2004 6:43
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Sitting in the plane or
not ?</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Your assumption is correct. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Think of it as pushing a shopping cart around
backwards. Since the front wheels turn and the back ones don't when you're
pushing it backwards you have to move the front opposite of the direction
you wish to turn (the analogy's not mine by the way). This is the same
method you use to steer the plane when inverted and it's flying away. This
also works great with the vertical uplines with the belly facing you. If the
plane is at the left end of the box going straight up and the belly is
facing you to move it "in" you push the tail "out" which means right stick.
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The part of the rule that I don't use is
"pushing" the nose when it's coming towards me inverted. In other words, if
the plane is at the right end of the box flying inverted toward center and
you wish to move the plane in you should "push the nose" in the direction
you want it to go. In this case you would apply right rudder (pushing the
nose to the right). Or the way I think about it is to still visualize from
behind the plane and push the tail in the opposite direction, in which case
it's still right stick because I'm pushing the tail away (driving the
shopping cart backwards).</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I hope this helps, it certainly helped
me.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2>Keith Black<FONT
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<A title=aabdu@sbcglobal.net href="mailto:aabdu@sbcglobal.net">Anthony
Abdullah</A> </DIV>
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href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, February 09, 2004 2:39
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Sitting in the plane or
not ?</DIV>
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<DIV>Keith, I am intrigued. Other than crosswind flying my biggest
weakness is correct rudder inputs. I am still somewhat unclear on what you
mean by "push the tail". If you are inverted flying left to right and past
yourself and you want to correct heading "in" toward the flight
line, you want to push the tail out or input left rudder? Is
that the correct way of thinking or am I still as confused as I look
(take my word on that one). <BR>
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