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<DIV>Earl:<BR><BR>I believe the key here is when you MIX roll types. a 2
of 2 followed by an opposite full roll are two different types, so the roll
rates can be different. At least, that's the way I see it..</DIV>
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<DIV>Tony Stillman<BR>Radio South<BR>3702 N. Pace Blvd.<BR>Pensacola, FL
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<A title=EHaury@aol.com href="mailto:EHaury@aol.com">EHaury@aol.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, March 10, 2004 10:45
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> F3A Definitions</DIV>
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<DIV>A couple of interesting points from the current F3A rules. In
"Description of Manoeuvres" (5A.1.13) it states: "Where there is a combination
of continuous rolls and point rolls within a manoeuvre, the roll rate for the
point rolls does not necessarily have to be the same as the roll rate for the
continuous rolls."</DIV>
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<DIV>Seems straight forward for a maneuver like "4 of 8, slow roll opposite."
But then, what's the definition of "continuous roll"? Is a half roll a
continuous roll, or a point roll (as in 2 of 2 for example)? In the first
case, in the sq. loop with 1/2 rolls & 2 of 4 rolls, each roll type could
be different rates. In the second, they would seem to all need to be the same,
or would they?</DIV>
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<DIV>Also, there are several center maneuvers, (P-05.22, F-05..18 for example)
where there is a half roll on the exit. The maneuver descriptions state: "Exit
half roll is part of the manoeuvre."</DIV>
<DIV>This raises a center question, P-05.22 is the 2 turn opposite inverted
spin with a half roll exit. It appears, basis the judging note including the
roll exit, that the center is midpoint between the stall and the end of the
exit roll. (AMA defines the stall as center of the spin - no such language in
FAI.)</DIV>
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<DIV>Thoughts?</DIV>
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<DIV>Earl</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>