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<DIV>All,</DIV>
<DIV> Thanks to everyone for the input in the YS engine question and
the earlier World Models question. My curiosity has been both satisfied and
picqued. It seems like you can more or less run whatever you want to in pattern
for whatever reason you want to at whatever cost you can bear. This is good,
because I need to remain flexible with the limited amount of equipment I can
afford each year. Whatever I procure(so many choices!), I will seriously
consider entering a contest this year just to get judged and advised on my
flying, even if my stuff/skills prove not to be very competitive. Heck, last
year, I showed up just to watch one, and they offered me free pilot food and
some schedules!</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Edward C. Hernandez<BR>"There are 10 kinds of people in the world,<BR>the
kind that understand binary, and the kind that don't." </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=Eric.Henderson@gartner.com
href="mailto:Eric.Henderson@gartner.com">Henderson,Eric</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, March 30, 2004 12:07
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: YS Engines</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=613074016-30032004>As a guy who runs both types of these
engines extensively I think that YS will make a big impression with their 160
DZ. When I say extensively I am saying multiple hundreds of runs on many
types. Four OS 1.40's, four OS 1.60FX's,. two OS 1,60 FI's, two
Mintor 1,60's, seven 1.40L's, many 1.20's, a couple of YS 91's, a 110 and
a couple of 63's,<FONT face=Tahoma> and that's just the current stuff. (plus a
ton of vicarious Webra 145 and 160 experience)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=613074016-30032004></SPAN><FONT face=Tahoma><SPAN
class=613074016-30032004><FONT face=Arial></FONT></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><SPAN class=613074016-30032004>Why the engine resume
you might ask? Well it does give me a balanced viewpoint. I liked all of them
for many reasons and disliked each one for one or two reasons. It's not all
about the running or operation. It has to also include the servicing and and
durability. All of then needed some sort of after market exhaust system
support. Some needed pipe tuning others needed carb
tuning.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><SPAN
class=613074016-30032004></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><SPAN class=613074016-30032004>In the final analysis it
really comes down to what YOU like. You'll never convince a happy YS owner to
go to a Mintor. If they are unhappy then a 2-c is attractive. They all
sound similar these days and db's below 90 are easy to achieve with 17' props,
on all of them.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><SPAN
class=613074016-30032004></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><SPAN class=613074016-30032004>I have a fond memory of
running the OS 1.40's that I brought through airport customs 6 plus years ago,
after finding them in a UK model shop. The customs story is not so fondly
remembered but the comments of a local pattern flyer stick out much more. "The
OS would never win a contest because it did not sound right ", was all that he
kept saying. This was usually followed up by a lecture on how the YS had all
these "great" performance points.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><SPAN
class=613074016-30032004></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><SPAN class=613074016-30032004>That same pattern flier
went on to eventually use 2-cycles and now has a whole rhetoric on how good
they are. The reason he moved is that now he likes them. That's all it
takes! He didn't win more or less with either, in fact he hardly ever won
anything. He will always be an engine-guy and if electric grabs him we
will just have to enjoy a new list of justifications.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><SPAN
class=613074016-30032004></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><SPAN class=613074016-30032004>It's all a matter of
taste. It is parts verses reliability, ease of operation verses power etc. and
in most cases initial cost verses the real costs of a season's
running.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><SPAN
class=613074016-30032004></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><SPAN
class=613074016-30032004>Regards,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><SPAN
class=613074016-30032004></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><SPAN
class=613074016-30032004>Eric.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><SPAN
class=613074016-30032004></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><SPAN class=613074016-30032004>P.S. my e-mail
address above will become inoperative tomorrow. It mat be a while before
return to the list. If anyone wants to contact me please use <A
href="mailto:eric.henderson@comcast.net">eric.henderson@comcast.net</A> or
look me up on RC Universe.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><SPAN class=613074016-30032004></SPAN></FONT><FONT
face=Tahoma><SPAN class=613074016-30032004></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><SPAN
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<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><SPAN
class=613074016-30032004> </SPAN>-----Original
Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> discussion-request@nsrca.org
[mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org]<B>On Behalf Of
</B>Patternrules@aol.com<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, March 30, 2004 11:20
AM<BR><B>To:</B> discussion@nsrca.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: YS
Engines<BR><BR></DIV></FONT><STRONG> Well from what we're seeing lately
unless YS starts making an electric all this talk will be a moot point
anyway.</STRONG>
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<DIV><FONT lang=0 face="Arial Baltic" FAMILY="SANSSERIF"
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