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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I vote for writing the scores down on a
pad, based on my experience. I see no compelling reason
for hand signals -- it se</FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2>ems more
complex than simply writing them down on a piece of paper. Also
hand signals could introduce translation errors in that the judge cannot
keep track of what the scribe has written down. In FAI pattern, the
maneuvers come very quickly and I believe it would be difficult, if not
possible to, keep up using Flash cards or hand signals. I also like
the audit trail of the score-on-the-pad system. I respectfully disagree
that all the flyers need to see the scores real time -- In my experience few
flyers have the time to watch their competitors fly due to maintenance on their
airplane, calling for others, or simply want to rest. I trust the judges
to get it right and do not think we need to second guess zero's from the pit
area. TRAIN THE JUDGES AND LET THEM DO THEIR JOB.</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=mups1953@yahoo.com href="mailto:mups1953@yahoo.com">mike mueller</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, April 17, 2004 3:37
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: A possible answer to lousy
judging "Flash cards"</DIV>
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<DIV> The way I propose the hand signals to work is like
this:</DIV>
<DIV> Right hand signifys 6 to 10 the thumb and index finger would be a
7. For half numbers you simply move the fingers to your palm and extend
them several times. A whole number stays put and extended. Numbers under
a 5 are on the left hand. I really think that the simplier we keep it the
better it could succeed. </DIV>
<DIV> Again I'd like to know if someone would like to trial this system
at a contest. If only for a couple of rounds with willing participants. I
think it's worth a try. I don't think there's anything in the rules that would
prevent this. Thanks, Mike<BR><BR><B><I>Lance Van Nostrand
<patterndude@comcast.net></I></B> wrote:</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>for me, I totally agree with these guys.
RVP was the first to suggest this that I heard at the nats a few years ago
and I started doing it this way and knew it was the way to go. I write
the scores on the pad in a column without taking my eyes off the
plane. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> Maybe the easiest, low tech way to
announce the scores is to have the scribe be the "publisher" for the manuver
scores during the flight, and then copys the scores to the official sheet in
between rounds. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> As a technology guy (s/w engineer)
I'd love to see electronic scoreboards and PDA systems, but for over 100
years simple hand signals have served the arbitragers in the stock
market. A simple adaptation of this system would be:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>1. Show the main score with your fingers, top
of the hand facing the audience</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>2. If a hand is turned so that a palm is facing
the audience, then add 1/2 point</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Even if there are a few mistakes along the way
with the palms, the audience will be informed to within a 1/2
point.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>--Lance</FONT></DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=vanputte@cox.net href="mailto:vanputte@cox.net">Ron Van Putte</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, April 17, 2004 7:57
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: A possible answer to
lousy judging "Flash cards"</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><BR>On Apr 17, 2004, at 5:47 AM, Del K. Rykert
wrote:<BR><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE><B><?smaller>The only other system I have found that works
well is using a pad to write down the scores and hopefully the scribe
can read my scribble and I don't overwrite my scores. It is better but
not perfect. At least not perfect for me. When I have a knowledgeable
scribe that is used to my system scores flow. When I have a warm body
stuck in scribes chair the system breaks down no matter what the system
is in some cases especially while judging FAI.<?/smaller></B><BR><B><?smaller> Keep the thoughts
flowing and something better might be
created.<?/smaller></B><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>I do what Del describes,
except that I usually don't use a scribe. After the last airborne
maneuver, I transcribe from the pad to the scoresheet.. I am usually done
before the airplane is on final landing approach.<BR><BR>Ron Van
Putte<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
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