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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle16><i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'><font
size=5 color=navy face="Bookman Old Style"><span style='font-size:16.0pt;
mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style"'>Hang in their Steve.
Your right. If you change the pitch by adding elevator first then it cannot be
a simultaneous maneuver. It becomes one input followed by another. There is no
way this can be defined as simultaneous. <o:p></o:p></span></font></i></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle16><i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'><font
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mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style"'><![if !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></font></i></span></p>
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mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style"'>Dennis Cone<o:p></o:p></span></font></i></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> discussion-request@nsrca.org
[mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org]<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>RC Steve Sterling<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, April 13, 2004 6:42
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> discussion@nsrca.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: Snaps</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Read my 2nd and 3rd paragraphs.
Certainly, the follow-on paragraphs still do not mention "before",
"prior", "do this first", it only says there must be a
break on initiation. It does not preclude the simultaneous autorotation.</span></font><font
size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> </span></font><font size=2
color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Sorry, you can't redefine the word
simultaneous.</span></font><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt;
margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> discussion-request@nsrca.org
[mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org]<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Patternrules@aol.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, April 13, 2004 6:14
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> discussion@nsrca.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: Snaps</span></font><font
size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>In a message dated 4/13/2004 8:06:56 PM
US Eastern Standard Time, rcsteve@tcrcm.org writes:</span></font><font size=2
color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-right:.5in;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid blue 1.5pt;
padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=2 color=blue
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>NOWHERE
does it use the word "before" or "prior". It says</span></font><font
size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-right:.5in;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid blue 1.5pt;
padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=2 color=blue
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>"Snap
Roll is the <strong><b>simultaneous</b></strong>, rapid autorotation in the
pitch, yaw and roll axes of flight...."</span></font><font size=2
color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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margin-left:.5in'><strong><b><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> Don't stop reading
as so many do, this is the next sentence.</span></font></b></strong><font
size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:.5in'><strong><b><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> </span></font></b></strong><font
size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:.5in'><strong><b><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> 1. Since the
maneuver is defined as a stall maneuver</span></font></b></strong><b><font
size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black;font-weight:bold'><br>
<strong><b>(initiated by a rapid stall of the wing induced</b></strong><br>
<strong><b>by a change in pitch attitude), the nose of the</b></strong><br>
<strong><b>fuselage should show a definite break from the</b></strong><br>
<strong><b>flight path in the direction of the snap (positive</b></strong><br>
<strong><b>or negative) while the track closely maintains</b></strong><br>
<strong><b>the flight path.</b></strong><br>
<strong><b> </b></strong></span></font></b><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;
mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> </span></font><font size=2
color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> </span></font><font size=2
color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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margin-left:.5in'><b><i><font size=2 color=black face="Arial Baltic" PTSIZE=10
FAMILY=SANSSERIF><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial Baltic";
mso-bidi-font-family:Arial;color:black;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'>Steve
Maxwell</span></font></i></b><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
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