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<DIV><SPAN class=892124317-14042004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Amen!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=892124317-14042004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2> One time I gave a famous [infamous] flyer a 0 on a snap and "had to
be pulled off future judging duties" for that contest as the infamous flier was
also the CD and his wife was the judging coordinator. This also happen to my
friend Bill Carter at the same contest. This happened in district viii. Now I
live in dist vii and have not encountered it. --john
lees</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> mike mueller
[mailto:mups1953@yahoo.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, April 14, 2004 9:39
AM<BR><B>To:</B> discussion@nsrca.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Defensive judging to
avoid retaliation. Are you guilty? <BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>Ok, this is the worst part of the problem with judging snaps, if you take
a stand and decide to be the "snap policeman" then you run the risk of judges
retaliation. Say your Bob the relatively new Advanced flyer and your
judging Joe superstar FAI guy. He executes a snap that's thought by most to be
pretty good because Joe performed it. You know better and think it didn't show
a proper break in pitch, so you 0 the maneuver. Dude are you kidding
me? Word get's out that you gave Joe superstar a 0 and you have a
bullseye on your back that may effect how others are going to judge you. Your
stuck in the middle of a tough competition with your arch rival and can't
afford the inevitable results. Who wants a reputation as a so called jerky
judge especially one that can't fly nearly as well as "Joe"?</DIV>
<DIV> Don't think for a second that this doesn't happen and happen all
the time. Thus you get the guys that take the "SAFE" route and scores 7 and
8's on everything even though you know better. Then there's the guy that's
competing against you judging in a defensive manner. Very few guys are
willing to step on toes because they are worried about the consequences.
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<DIV> I hate contestant judging because it's vanilla. Back when
pattern was King we didn't allow it. When you held a contest you provided
judges that didn't fly. In so many ways it was better. Given all that were
stuck with it and it ain't changing anytime soon because we lack the numbers
that we used to have. </DIV>
<DIV> Houston we have a problem!!!!!!!!</DIV>
<DIV> PS: This is not meant to hurt Joe's feelings, so don't take it too
personally please. This is what makes judging snaps too hard for most of
us.</DIV>
<DIV> Oh ya am I guilty? In the past I would admit that it has played in
to my thinking process. I wonder how many of you would admit to this
fault.</DIV>
<DIV> Have
a nice day!! Mike</DIV>
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