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<DIV>To my way of thinking, if there is + incidence in the wing, in forward motion lift is generated be it positive or negative (up or down, to the right or to the left).</DIV>
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<DIV>ORLANDO FRETS</DIV>
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<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=JOddino@socal.rr.com href="mailto:JOddino@socal.rr.com">JOddino</A> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> 4/14/2004 1:16:14 AM </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Snaps</DIV>
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<DIV>How do you stall a wing that is not producing any lift, as in the case when the plane is on a vertical up or down line?</DIV>
<DIV>My definnition of stall is when an increase in angle of attack does not produce an increase in lift. Another might be when the lift does not exceed the weight. I've got to believe we know a snap when we see it and we ought to quit trying to describe it in words.</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, April 13, 2004 6:13 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Snaps</DIV>
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<DIV>In a message dated 4/13/2004 8:06:56 PM US Eastern Standard Time, <A href="mailto:rcsteve@tcrcm.org">rcsteve@tcrcm.org</A> writes:</DIV>
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<DIV><STRONG> 1. Since the maneuver is defined as a stall maneuver<BR>(initiated by a rapid stall of the wing induced<BR>by a change in pitch attitude), the nose of the<BR>fuselage should show a definite break from the<BR>flight path in the direction of the snap (positive<BR>or negative) while the track closely maintains<BR>the flight path.<BR> </STRONG></DIV>
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