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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Mike:<BR><BR>Who needs to see the judges
scores? Are you wanting the spectators to see it?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>Tony Stillman<BR>Radio South<BR>3702 N. Pace Blvd.<BR>Pensacola, FL
32505<BR>1-800-962-7802<BR><A
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<A title=mups1953@yahoo.com href="mailto:mups1953@yahoo.com">mike mueller</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, April 17, 2004 7:28
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: A possible answer to lousy
judging "Flash cards"</DIV>
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<DIV> I still have to say that the point I tried to bring out is being
missed completely. We really need to see the judges scores. Lot's of ways to
do it. Fingers are cheap and easy. It's not perfect but the down sides are
really overshadowed by the potential upsides. I can see by the amount of
resistance that the idea has brought on that most don't agree. I can only
disagree with that. I'll say it again, we need a better way. There is no
perfect way. The bottom line has to be that enough people see the need for
change and want to try something new. If the consensus is that were not having
a problem with judging than nothing will change. Either way I'm going to the
contests this year and having a few beers with my buddy's. That's the best
part. Have a great season. Mike<BR><BR><B><I>"Del K. Rykert"
<drykert@localnet.com></I></B> wrote:
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<DIV><STRONG><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2>I have used fingers and only
problem I've had with that system is when you are asked what that is
while you are judging the next maneuver. I put all my concentration in to
the judging task and don't like being distracted with scribes questions.
Then I have to ask him to repeat or wait depending on where the maneuver I'm
judging is and then scores aren't recorded and I am not a mental recorder
that can recall which maneuver I gave the 6 and then the 9. It is not
fair to the contestant to not receive the score he was earned by the judge.
The only other system I have found that works well is using a pad to write
down the scores and hopefully the scribe can read my scribble and I don't
overwrite my scores. It is better but not perfect. At least not perfect for
me. When I have a knowledgeable scribe that is used to my system scores
flow. When I have a warm body stuck in scribes chair the system breaks down
no matter what the system is in some cases especially while judging
FAI.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2> Keep the
thoughts flowing and something better might be created.
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del
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NSRCA - 473</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=mups1953@yahoo.com href="mailto:mups1953@yahoo.com">mike
mueller</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, April 15, 2004 9:56
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: A possible answer to
lousy judging "Flash cards"</DIV>
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<DIV> Del, I realize that flash cards would be tough and that's
why too many would resist it.</DIV>
<DIV> What about flashing fingers. I know for fact that it's easier
than verbally telling the scribe. It serves a function in that others can
now judge the judging. How can we improve if we can't even see what the
scores are. I'm telling you that I feel strongly that this system would
help us alot. I'm hoping someone trys it. It'll take someone to step
up to the plate and try this method. It's super simple and it works.
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<DIV> Another added benefit of flashing scores is that
you can establish judging tendences. Judge A downgrades for in to
close while judge C like's them close. In the old days judges tendency's
were studied much like an umpire calling balls and strikes. Some umps
call strikes on lower pitches than others. Teams learn these
tendencies and use them to their advantage.</DIV>
<DIV> Again last I checked I fly pattern for recreation. Let's bring
back some of the fun! </DIV>
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I still think it's a great debate. Mike <BR><BR><B><I>"Del K. Rykert"
<drykert@localnet.com></I></B> wrote:</DIV>
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<DIV><STRONG><FONT face="MS Sans Serif"
size=2>Mike..</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2> I
don't see how there is enough time while judging FAI to mess with flash
cards?</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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del
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NSRCA - 473</FONT></STRONG> </DIV>
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