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<DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2>Even a better one Tony...&nbsp; 
grin..</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2>&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Del</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV 
  style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
  <A title=tony@radiosouthrc.com href="mailto:tony@radiosouthrc.com">Tony 
  Stillman</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org 
  href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, April 20, 2004 10:53 
  AM</DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: A possible answer to lousy 
  judging "Flash cards"</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>You can save much more money by just bribing the 
  scorekeeper!&nbsp; Just one person, and he/she is the one that actually puts 
  in the scores!</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>(JUST KIDDING EVERYONE!!!)</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Tony Stillman<BR>Radio South<BR>3702 N. Pace 
  Blvd.<BR>Pensacola, FL 32505<BR>1-800-962-7802<BR><A 
  href="http://www.radiosouthrc.com">www.radiosouthrc.com</A></FONT></DIV>
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    <DIV 
    style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
    <A title=vanputte@cox.net href="mailto:vanputte@cox.net">Ron Van Putte</A> 
    </DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org 
    href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, April 19, 2004 9:32 
    PM</DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: A possible answer to lousy 
    judging "Flash cards"</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV><BR>On Apr 19, 2004, at 7:07 PM, Del K. Rykert wrote:<BR><BR>
    <BLOCKQUOTE><?x-tad-bigger>I learned that a long time ago it was smarter 
      to bribe the scribes rather than the judges. Scribes were cheaper 
      too...&nbsp; <?/x-tad-bigger><B><?x-tad-bigger>(4 those 2 serious this was 
      said tongue firmly planted in cheek...)<?/x-tad-bigger></B><BR><B><?x-tad-bigger><BR><?/x-tad-bigger></B></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>I 
    once scribed for a notoriously 'low judge'. The CD asked me how it went and 
    I told him, "It was great once I realized that I didn't have to write down 
    the scores he gave me." He about had a fit until I told him I was just 
    kidding.<BR><BR>Ron Van Putte<BR><BR>
    <BLOCKQUOTE><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?x-tad-bigger>----- Original 
      Message -----<?/x-tad-bigger><?/fontfamily><BR><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?x-tad-bigger><?/x-tad-bigger><B><?x-tad-bigger>From:<?/x-tad-bigger></B><?x-tad-bigger> 
<?/x-tad-bigger><?color><?param 0000,0000,EEEE><?x-tad-bigger>MargueriteVG@aol.com<?/x-tad-bigger><?/color><?x-tad-bigger> 
<?/x-tad-bigger><?/fontfamily><BR><B><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?x-tad-bigger>To:<?/x-tad-bigger><?/fontfamily></B><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?x-tad-bigger> 
<?/x-tad-bigger><?color><?param 0000,0000,EEEE><?x-tad-bigger>discussion@nsrca.org<?/x-tad-bigger><?/color><?x-tad-bigger> 
<?/x-tad-bigger><?/fontfamily><BR><B><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?x-tad-bigger>Sent:<?/x-tad-bigger><?/fontfamily></B><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?x-tad-bigger> 
      Monday, April 19, 2004 7:32 PM<?/x-tad-bigger><?/fontfamily><BR><B><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?x-tad-bigger>Subject:<?/x-tad-bigger><?/fontfamily></B><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?x-tad-bigger> 
      Re: A possible answer to lousy judging "Flash cards"<?/x-tad-bigger><?/fontfamily><BR><BR><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?x-tad-bigger>&nbsp;&nbsp; 
      James&nbsp;&nbsp;<?/x-tad-bigger><?/fontfamily><BR><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?x-tad-bigger>&nbsp;I 
      have seen that also.&nbsp;<?/x-tad-bigger><?/fontfamily><BR><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?x-tad-bigger>&nbsp;<?/x-tad-bigger><?/fontfamily><BR><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?x-tad-bigger>&nbsp;We 
      have to use&nbsp;scribes that really know what is expected and how 
      important these scores are to the pilots. 
      I<?/x-tad-bigger><?/fontfamily><BR><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?x-tad-bigger>&nbsp;<?/x-tad-bigger><?/fontfamily><BR><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?x-tad-bigger>The 
      question is how do we get scribes that are trained and responsible. that 
      is&nbsp;difficult unless they are pilots.&nbsp; It is very sad when a 
      pilot has to scribe judge and fly at a contest.<?/x-tad-bigger><?/fontfamily><BR><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?x-tad-bigger>&nbsp;<?/x-tad-bigger><?/fontfamily><BR><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?x-tad-bigger>&nbsp;It 
      really is not as simple&nbsp; as&nbsp; "just write down what I tell you" 
      Man<?/x-tad-bigger><?/fontfamily><BR><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?x-tad-bigger>&nbsp;<?/x-tad-bigger><?/fontfamily><BR><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?x-tad-bigger>When 
      its 100 degrees out and we need scribes many are asked to help that are 
      not really ready to scribe.&nbsp; I often wonder was it the Judge or the 
      scribe&nbsp; that wrote that outrageous O or 5 when it should have been a 
      9&nbsp; :-)<?/x-tad-bigger><?/fontfamily><BR><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?x-tad-bigger>&nbsp;<?/x-tad-bigger><?/fontfamily><BR><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?x-tad-bigger>&nbsp;<?/x-tad-bigger><?/fontfamily><BR><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?x-tad-bigger>. 
      We really do not have an answer yet.&nbsp; Perhaps we might have some of 
      the sophisticated suggestions made on the subject put into action. 
      Research the idea. An extra dollar or two&nbsp;from each contest to work 
      on&nbsp;an electronic&nbsp;program. A committee&nbsp; could be set up with 
      the &nbsp;NSRCA<?/x-tad-bigger><?/fontfamily><BR><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?x-tad-bigger>Might 
      take awhile but its a move towards a solution. Lets face it the score a 
      scribe writes down decides the winner.<?/x-tad-bigger><?/fontfamily><BR><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?x-tad-bigger>Marguerite<?/x-tad-bigger><?/fontfamily><BR><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?x-tad-bigger>&nbsp;<?/x-tad-bigger><?/fontfamily><BR><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?x-tad-bigger>&nbsp;<?/x-tad-bigger><?/fontfamily><BR><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?x-tad-bigger>In 
      a message dated 4/19/2004 5:51:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
      James.Woodward2@edwards.af.mil writes:<?/x-tad-bigger><?/fontfamily><BR><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?x-tad-bigger>I 
      know I'm way-late on this thread however, the use of a scribe does not in<?/x-tad-bigger><?/fontfamily><BR><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?x-tad-bigger>itself 
      guarantee better judging.&nbsp; Just this weekend, we/I witnessed judges<?/x-tad-bigger><?/fontfamily><BR><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?x-tad-bigger>using 
      scribes for Masters &amp; FAI, looking "down" to tell the scribe what the<?/x-tad-bigger><?/fontfamily><BR><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?x-tad-bigger>score 
      is..... it was kind of funny to watch.&nbsp; In fact, given that they were<?/x-tad-bigger><?/fontfamily><BR><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?x-tad-bigger>looking 
      down before the use of a scribe, the addition of a scribe only<?/x-tad-bigger><?/fontfamily><BR><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?x-tad-bigger>increase 
      the chances of errors, as they (still looking down), had to<?/x-tad-bigger><?/fontfamily><BR><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?x-tad-bigger>transfer 
      information to another person.<?/x-tad-bigger><?/fontfamily><BR><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?x-tad-bigger>Jim 
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