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<DIV>Keith:<BR><BR>You have very good ideas! Actually, what you propose is
pretty much what I thought might work, and we were looking into making the
"Baseball Umpires" version. After much discussion, we decided to try a
1/2point, 1 point, zero, and enter keys. We felt that we could get used to
clicking the 1 point deduction 4 or 5 times pretty quickly, and keep the amount
of buttons to a minimum. I don't think we will really know until we get a
working model in the hands of several judges to see what they think.</DIV>
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<DIV>It sounds like making up a couple of mock versions might be in order, so
that we could pass them around at the NATS and get a good cross-section
report...</DIV>
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<DIV>Tony Stillman<BR>Radio South<BR>3702 N. Pace Blvd.<BR>Pensacola, FL
32505<BR>1-800-962-7802<BR><A
href="http://www.radiosouthrc.com">www.radiosouthrc.com</A></DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=tkeithb@comcast.net href="mailto:tkeithb@comcast.net">Keith Black</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, April 21, 2004 4:26
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Judge Training /Contest
Scoring</DIV>
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<DIV>Here are a some thoughts about the 1/2 point deduction scoring
device:</DIV>
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<DIV>1. I think it's a terrific idea to have a tool that would allow you to
enter deductions each time you see a defect in a maneuver, however I think
only having 1/2 point deductions on the device (or 1 pt for FAI) would not be
adequate when maneuvers have many errors close together. I think you'd also
need at least a 2 pt deduction button, a zero button, and maybe a 1 pt
deduction button as well. I know this increases the difficulty in remembering
which button to push, but I've judged some flights where the plane drifted
in too close and three or more botched maneuvers were crammed together so
quickly that I barely had time to write 4.5, 3, 3.5 on the score sheet, much
less press a 1/2 pt button 38 times.</DIV>
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<DIV>2. I believe if we do have a way to click deduction buttons every
time we see a defect in a flight, rather than trying to do it in our heads, as
a rule we'll begin to see much lower scores and we'll see the gap between the
best fliers and the weaker fliers widen. This of course is a good thing as it
more accurately reflects our flight performance. </DIV>
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<DIV>3. Even though I think this would be a wonderful system, I think it's
going to be difficult to make it work correctly so judges don't inadvertently
enter a score they didn't intend to enter, or get off by one maneuver and
enter an entire list of scores in the wrong spot. After the fact it will be
very difficult to figure out which maneuver was skipped or entered
twice.</DIV>
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<DIV>4. It may work well to have a device like baseball umpires use where they
hold it in their hand and squeeze different buttons for balls/strikes/outs.
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<DIV>Keith Black</DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=tony@radiosouthrc.com href="mailto:tony@radiosouthrc.com">Tony
Stillman</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, April 16, 2004 3:02
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Judge Training /Contest
Scoring</DIV>
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<DIV>Steve:<BR><BR>Yes, that is the final system that we had decided on
before we ran out of money! </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>This would work very well, but you still have to get judges
trained to use it properly. Of course, it would have to be
standardized so everyone could build their own that would interface with the
proper electronic equipment. </DIV>
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<DIV>Tony Stillman<BR>Radio South<BR>3702 N. Pace Blvd.<BR>Pensacola, FL
32505<BR>1-800-962-7802<BR><A
href="http://www.radiosouthrc.com">www.radiosouthrc.com</A></DIV>
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<DIV
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<A title=Patternrules@aol.com
href="mailto:Patternrules@aol.com">Patternrules@aol.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, April 16, 2004 8:30
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Judge Training /Contest
Scoring</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><STRONG> Tony & Dean maybe your closer than you
think, really if you think about it you only need a 2 button system as AMA
uses 1/2 point increments say the right button every time you push it
deducts 1/2 point the left button would be as an "enter" which would then
go to the next maneuver, could even be programed to input the contestant #
by the same method say push enter button 3 times for a new contestant, for
FAI the program would detect that the pilot # is FAI and would use 1 point
increments.</STRONG>
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<DIV><FONT lang=0 face="Arial Baltic" size=2 PTSIZE="10"
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