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<DIV><SPAN class=980522509-09052004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>The
surveys of the NSRCA members clearly proved that the overwhelming majority of US
pattern flyers (NSRCA members) want scored take offs and landings. In my humble
opinion, take offs and landings are just as aerobatic as a loop of roll and
should be judged as such. Perhaps AMA is pushing us back to the NPAC
idea where we can be in charge of our own destiny; ya
think???</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=980522509-09052004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Tom
W.</FONT> </SPAN></DIV>
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size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> discussion-request@nsrca.org
[mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>george
kennie<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, May 08, 2004 5:04 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
discussion@nsrca.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: rules proposals final
result<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>Not only that, but those poor guys in Intermediate
still didn't get their snap! How inconsiderate!!!!!!!!! HOW
UNFAIR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <BR>It seems to me that I remember a
couple of contests last year in my district where the C.D. notified the
contestants on the sanction, in advance, that the Intermediate flyers sequence
would include the snap and the Immelman and that this was perfectly legal. I
can't see why we can't implement the same procedure regarding scored T.O.s and
Ls.and the snaps and anything else we want to incorporate(within reason) and
phooey with the contest board. What can they do ? Refuse to issue a sanction?
It would appear to me that none of the contest board members even glanced at
the survey results let alone exercised any reflection regarding same( Am I
getting too pushy?). <BR>Georgie
<P>Lance Van Nostrand wrote:
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<FONT face=Arial><FONT size=-1>I need to vent:</FONT></FONT> <FONT
face=Arial><FONT size=-1>I don't understand why there isn't more outrage on
RCA05-05 (0 or 10 on takeoff and landing). This proposal was written
and submitted after the NSRCA survey results asked the question about judged
takeoff/landings every which way possible and every time got the same
answer: continue to judge these manuvers on a 0-10 scale.</FONT></FONT><FONT
face=Arial><FONT size=-1> Pattern is all about presentation and
sloppy TO/Landings detract from this. When you are on the "stage" you
are making your presentation. This is why actors take a bow at the end
of thier performance maintaining grace and style; or why TV newscasters hold
their face until the commercial cutaway. It's about completing the
presentation.</FONT></FONT> <FONT face=Arial><FONT size=-1>I did my
part, by reminding D6'ers in my March KFactor column to call their contest
board member (phone #s provided). But with the KFactor running a
consistent month late, most people probably didn't get their March issue
(written in February) until well into April.</FONT></FONT> <FONT
face=Arial><FONT size=-1>--Lance</FONT></FONT> ----- Original Message
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=kerlock@comcast.net href="mailto:kerlock@comcast.net">Mike
Hester</A></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, May 06, 2004 3:40
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: rules proposals final
result</DIV> <FONT face=Arial><FONT size=-1>I find it interesting
that they decided to do away with judging take off and landing, yet do not
think intermediate pilots can handle a positive
snap.</FONT></FONT> <FONT face=Arial><FONT size=-1>Oh well, it works
for me.</FONT></FONT> <FONT face=Arial><FONT
size=-1>-Mike</FONT></FONT>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----</DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=tony@radiosouthrc.com href="mailto:tony@radiosouthrc.com">Tony
Stillman</A></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:Discussion@Nsrca.Org">Discussion@Nsrca.Org</A></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, May 06, 2004 9:53
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> rules proposals final
result</DIV> <FONT face=Arial><FONT size=-1>All:</FONT></FONT>
<BR><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=-1>I just received a notice from John
Fuqua, R/C Contest Board Chairman, about the results of the final votes
concerning the Pattern Rules Proposals for
2005-2006.</FONT></FONT> <FONT face=Arial><FONT size=-1>You can
find the results posted next to the rules proposals at the following
address: <A
href="http://www.radiosouthrc.com/rulesproposal.htm">http://www.radiosouthrc.com/rulesproposal.htm</A></FONT></FONT> <FONT
face=Arial><FONT size=-1>Tony Stillman</FONT></FONT> <BR><FONT
face=Arial><FONT size=-1>Radio South</FONT></FONT> <BR><FONT
face=Arial><FONT size=-1>3702 N. Pace Blvd.</FONT></FONT> <BR><FONT
face=Arial><FONT size=-1>Pensacola, FL 32505</FONT></FONT> <BR><FONT
face=Arial><FONT size=-1>1-800-962-7802</FONT></FONT> <BR><FONT
face=Arial><FONT size=-1><A
href="http://www.radiosouthrc.com">www.radiosouthrc.com</A></FONT></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>