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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I'm guessing that you don't really know if there is
a bigger problem in the R/C industry vs. other applications. There hasn't
been in my neck of the woods. There will be when we start powering our
models with them, but I don't believe operating our R/C systems with
Li-Ion poses a high risk. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I do believe that the company that has given
Lithiums a bad reputation is the one that added the charge circuitry in the
packs and it was the implementation (not the concept) of that circuitry that
caused the problems. I assume it has been corrected. I also believe
that it takes some level of learning to avoid accidents but that is not unusual
for modelers. There are many dangers in our hobby. So If someone
doesn't feel up to the learning process, stick with what you know.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Jim </FONT></DIV>
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<A title=Rcmaster199@aol.com
href="mailto:Rcmaster199@aol.com">Rcmaster199@aol.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, May 09, 2004 7:37 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Charging concerns/questions
with NMP Lithium Ion batteries</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT lang=0 face=Arial size=2
FAMILY="SANSSERIF" PTSIZE="10">I have tried to stay out of most of this
discussion but something is gnawing at me. I have asked this question before,
but don't believe I have gotten an answer. Maybe no one on the list knows
<BR><BR>Since Li-ion and Li-poly technology is widely used in cameras and cell
phones, and these are recharged all the time (in the home and without
special power supplies like separate 12 volt sources and such) with extremely
safe circuitry, why is it that the folks who offer these same battery types to
us, use charging circuitry that isn't so bullet proof???<BR><BR>Certainly
currents and voltages are different in some applications, but the chemistry is
the same. And Lithium metal will burn with ferocious intensity whether 20
grams are exposed or 10 times that amount. The heat is enough to burn your
plane or house either way.<BR><BR>Matt K<BR>
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TYPE="CITE">Subj:<B>Re: Charging concerns/questions with NMP Lithium Ion
batteries </B><BR>Date:5/9/2004 12:33:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time<BR>From:<A
href="mailto:kerlock@comcast.net">kerlock@comcast.net</A><BR>Reply-to:<A
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A><BR>To:<A
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A><BR><I>Sent from
the Internet </I><BR><BR><BR><BR>First off, I'm not looking for compassion.
That was a simple explanation as<BR>to why a guy who is normally cheery,
laughing and all smiles could go into a<BR>practically homicidal rage over a
smart a* comment<BR><BR>Secondly and most importantly, I'd like you to
explain to me, with as much<BR>detail as you'd like, how my position is
extreme in any way, shape or form.<BR>To me, an extreme position would be
"ban lithium batteries". I have never<BR>said or proposed any such thing.
I'd like to know how recommending caution<BR>and informing the uninformed
could POSSIBLY be viewed as extreme. Or is<BR>anyone even bothering to read,
or are they just glancing and knee jerking?<BR><BR>And I don't need any type
of apology, but thanks for the thought. I mean it.<BR><BR>-Mike<BR><BR>-----
Original Message ----- <BR>From: "John Ferrell"
<johnferrell@earthlink.net><BR>To:
<discussion@nsrca.org><BR>Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2004 10:12
AM<BR>Subject: Re: Charging concerns/questions with NMP Lithium Ion
batteries<BR><BR><BR>> We can always start over. I am sometimes guilty of
"picking on" someone<BR>> because their reaction is extreme. I see now
that I should investigate<BR>> conditions further to assure that what I
intend as good natured joking is<BR>> not taken as insensitive and cruel.
Fortunately, it was not I that was the<BR>> perpetrator this time, but it
could have
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