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<DIV><SPAN class=710440317-12052004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Yeah
that was a Bridi XLT, and the name sticks to this day!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=710440317-12052004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Thanks
Ron</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Ron Van Putte
[mailto:vanputte@cox.net]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, May 12, 2004 12:33
PM<BR><B>To:</B> discussion@nsrca.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [SPAM] RE: Back
to a two-year rules cycle and judging certification<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><!-- Converted from text/enriched format --><BR><BR>
<DIV>On May 12, 2004, at 11:25 AM, <tony@radiosouthrc.com> wrote:
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial><SMALL>Dean:</SMALL></FONT> </DIV><BR>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><SMALL>Thanks, good stuff...</SMALL></FONT>
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<DIV>Yeah, he's come a long way from that young whippersnapper I met at the
F3A Team Selection Finals at Rough River so many years ago. As I remember, he
was flying a modified Bill Cunningham airplane I named "Up Chuck", since it
was so ugly. <VBG> </DIV><BR>
<DIV>Ron Van Putte<FONT color=#0000ee> </DIV>
<DIV></FONT></DIV><BR>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>----- Original Message -----</FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><B>From:</B> <FONT color=#0000ee>Dean Pappas</FONT>
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><B><FONT face=Arial>To:</FONT></B><FONT face=Arial> <FONT
color=#0000ee>discussion@nsrca.org</FONT> </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><B><FONT face=Arial>Sent:</FONT></B><FONT face=Arial> Wednesday, May
12, 2004 11:05 AM</FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><B><FONT face=Arial>Subject:</FONT></B><FONT face=Arial> [SPAM] RE:
Back to a two-year rules cycle and judging certification</FONT> </DIV><BR>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><SMALL>Hi Tony and
Bob,</SMALL></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><SMALL>Let me add something here
... a judging training philosophical; issue.</SMALL></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><SMALL>A judging training
session is often thought of as a chance for a group of people to go
through the maneuver descriptions and downgrades together. That's a good
thing to do, but if that's the whole point of a training seminar, then we
waste everyone's travel time, and you know how far that can be, sometimes.
We can all read the maneuver descriptions and the judges' guide at home,
even though we can always use a get-together as an pleasant excuse to
do our studying homework.</SMALL></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><SMALL>The valuable opportunity at
a judging seminar is to more figure out how to judge, than what to
judge. How to learn to look for the mythical spin/snap break; or how to
come up with a system that works for you to count-up the downgrades so that
you don't loose track and start scoring by impression; how to put a value on
just how much a certain amount of out-of-roundness on a loop is worth; and
then the list of downgrades makes sense.</SMALL></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><SMALL>So my take on this is to
teach as little of the WHAT as I can get away with, tell people that they
are never really done reading the rule book, and then spend as much time
talking about HOW to judge as time will allow. The biggest help here has
always been the handful of good experienced judges in the crowd, who are
available to share their ideas and techniques with the neophytes. Different
things work for different people: some count on their fingers, others in
their heads, and yet others keep a running description of boo-boos and then
total up. If you don't have a system that works for you, then the best thing
a seminar can give you is things to try.</SMALL></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><SMALL>Once you know HOW, WHAT is
just a matter of rerading the new rule book, and finding out what the intent
was on unclear maneuver descriptions (not like there are any of those!) as
has been happening on this forum. At any one seminar, it is unlikely that
someone can give you a definitive clarification unless the answer has
already descendeed from the appropriate rules body.</SMALL></FONT></FONT>
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<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><SMALL>Just my two
cents,</SMALL></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV> <FONT face=Arial><FONT
color=#0000ff><SMALL>Dean</SMALL></FONT></FONT> </DIV><BR>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT
color=#0000ff><SMALL> </SMALL></FONT></FONT><SMALL>-----Original
Message-----</SMALL> </DIV>
<DIV><B><SMALL>From:</SMALL></B><SMALL> tony@radiosouthrc.com
[mailto:tony@radiosouthrc.com]</SMALL> </DIV>
<DIV><B><SMALL>Sent:</SMALL></B><SMALL> Wednesday, May 12, 2004 11:29
AM</SMALL> </DIV>
<DIV><B><SMALL>To:</SMALL></B><SMALL> discussion@nsrca.org</SMALL> </DIV>
<DIV><B><SMALL>Subject:</SMALL></B><SMALL> Re: Back to a two-year rules
cycle and judging certification</SMALL> </DIV><BR><BR>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><SMALL>Bob:</SMALL></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><SMALL>Good question! Actually, we can do both
at the same time as usually it is just a schedule change in F3A. If
something changes that we need to address specifically, then we will do so
in that even-numbered year...</SMALL></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Tony Stillman </DIV>
<DIV>Radio South </DIV>
<DIV>3702 N. Pace Blvd. </DIV>
<DIV>Pensacola, FL 32505 </DIV>
<DIV>1-800-962-7802 </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ee>www.radiosouthrc.com</FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>----- Original Message -----</FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><B>From:</B> <FONT color=#0000ee>Bob Kane</FONT>
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><B><FONT face=Arial>To:</FONT></B><FONT face=Arial> <FONT
color=#0000ee>nsrca</FONT> </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><B><FONT face=Arial>Sent:</FONT></B><FONT face=Arial> Wednesday, May
12, 2004 10:10 AM</FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><B><FONT face=Arial>Subject:</FONT></B><FONT face=Arial> Back to a
two-year rules cycle and judging certification</FONT> </DIV><BR>
<DIV>Steve Maxwell asked this question a couple of weeks ago and I did not
see any response. The AMA cycle will be two years, beginning in odd numbered
years. The FAI cycle is also two years, but starting on even numbered
years. How are we going to handle judging certification?
</DIV><BR><BR>
<DIV>Bob Kane </DIV>
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