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<DIV><SPAN class=895164312-12052004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>And I
bet you wouldn't want your friends to go thru it either! </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
discussion-request@nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org] <B>On
Behalf Of </B>Del Rykert<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, May 12, 2004 8:35
AM<BR><B>To:</B> discussion@nsrca.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Rules Proposals
Final Vote<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2>Isn't it amazing how those who
have been burned either literally or figuratively have strong opinions. I also
have been hit with a model and it carried me 15 feet and slide another 15
feet. It was 60 powered. No picnic and one I care not to repeat.
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del
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NSRCA - 473</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=JAStebbins@worldnet.att.net
href="mailto:JAStebbins@worldnet.att.net">Jerry Stebbins</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, May 11, 2004 10:01
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Rules Proposals Final
Vote</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>John's comments are interesting, but not
totally correct. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I would assume that the info on the survey was
"districtable" and therefore each rep could/should have found out how his
membership voted. If not, one could assume a % by allocation and be close.
In any case you would not expect the proposer to vote against his own
proposal, or those of his compatriots. Also I would generally not expect the
board members to vote against the Chairman's proposal, supported by
NSRCA execs. or on their poposals, unless they had some very strong
opposition expressed to them.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I expressed my comments verbally to John
several times at contests, both factual rebuttals of his "rationale", and
the legal implications of someone getting hit under a new rule that
reduced the criteria, and need for takeoff "control". My mistake was to
delete the long,and specific, comments I wrote and then deleted, after
deciding they had all been previously expressed. I should have, at
least , documented them for the record.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> I have been hit, and had to duck
several times, while judging, over the past 11 years, and did not like it.
Demonstration of control of the plane on the ground, and in the air is a
basic Safety precept, and I think this sends the wrong message to the
pilots. One takeoff this year at Pensacola was at right angles to the
runway--luckily out, but the judges sure flinched!!!!!!!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>No reason to duck, jus don"t
judge!!!!!!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Jerry</FONT>----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=patterndude@comcast.net
href="mailto:patterndude@comcast.net">Lance Van Nostrand</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, May 11, 2004 12:12
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Rules Proposals Final
Vote</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ron,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>John's post is interesting, and provides
insight into his perspective. My response is:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>1. We recognize that the AMA CB is
independent and should vote in a way that represents their district.
It is part of the CB member's job to understand the sentiment of his
district. It's not the members responsibility to find him.
Without this input, he is voting personally from an appointed position
(not democratic).</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>2. It is totally reasonable that he
might prefer non-judged TO/L. In fact 17% of the survey respondents
agree with that position. However, with "nada" input from his
district, how can he conclude that an overwhelmingly unpopular
opinion is the will of his constituents?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>--Lance</FONT> </DIV>
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