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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Dean:<BR><BR>Thanks, good stuff...</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>Tony Stillman<BR>Radio South<BR>3702 N. Pace Blvd.<BR>Pensacola, FL
32505<BR>1-800-962-7802<BR><A
href="http://www.radiosouthrc.com">www.radiosouthrc.com</A></DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=d.pappas@kodeos.com href="mailto:d.pappas@kodeos.com">Dean Pappas</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, May 12, 2004 11:05
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [SPAM] RE: Back to a two-year
rules cycle and judging certification</DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=587344315-12052004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Hi
Tony and Bob,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=587344315-12052004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Let
me add something here ... a judging training philosophical;
issue.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=587344315-12052004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>A judging training session is often thought of as a chance
for a group of people to go through the maneuver descriptions and downgrades
together. That's a good thing to do, but if that's the whole point of a
training seminar, then we waste everyone's travel time, and you know how far
that can be, sometimes. We can all read the maneuver descriptions and the
judges' guide at home, even though we can always use a get-together as an
pleasant excuse to do our studying homework.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=587344315-12052004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=587344315-12052004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>The
valuable opportunity at a judging seminar is to more figure out how to judge,
than what to judge. How to learn to look for the mythical spin/snap
break; or how to come up with a system that works for you to count-up the
downgrades so that you don't loose track and start scoring by impression; how
to put a value on just how much a certain amount of out-of-roundness on a loop
is worth; and then the list of downgrades makes sense.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=587344315-12052004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=587344315-12052004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>So
my take on this is to teach as little of the WHAT as I can get away with, tell
people that they are never really done reading the rule book, and then spend
as much time talking about HOW to judge as time will allow. The biggest help
here has always been the handful of good experienced judges in the crowd, who
are available to share their ideas and techniques with the neophytes.
Different things work for different people: some count on their fingers,
others in their heads, and yet others keep a running description of boo-boos
and then total up. If you don't have a system that works for you, then the
best thing a seminar can give you is things to try.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=587344315-12052004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=587344315-12052004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Once
you know HOW, WHAT is just a matter of rerading the new rule book, and finding
out what the intent was on unclear maneuver descriptions (not like there are
any of those!) as has been happening on this forum. At any one seminar, it is
unlikely that someone can give you a definitive clarification unless the
answer has already descendeed from the appropriate rules
body.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=587344315-12052004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=587344315-12052004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Just
my two cents,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=587344315-12052004> <FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Dean</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=587344315-12052004></SPAN><FONT face=Tahoma><BR><FONT
size=2><SPAN class=587344315-12052004><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff> </FONT></SPAN>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
tony@radiosouthrc.com [mailto:tony@radiosouthrc.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B>
Wednesday, May 12, 2004 11:29 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
discussion@nsrca.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Back to a two-year rules cycle and
judging certification<BR><BR></FONT></DIV></FONT>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Bob:<BR>Good question! Actually, we can
do both at the same time as usually it is just a schedule change in
F3A. If something changes that we need to address specifically, then
we will do so in that even-numbered year...</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>Tony Stillman<BR>Radio South<BR>3702 N. Pace Blvd.<BR>Pensacola, FL
32505<BR>1-800-962-7802<BR><A
href="http://www.radiosouthrc.com">www.radiosouthrc.com</A></DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=getterflash@yahoo.com href="mailto:getterflash@yahoo.com">Bob
Kane</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">nsrca</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, May 12, 2004 10:10
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Back to a two-year rules
cycle and judging certification</DIV>
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<DIV>Steve Maxwell asked this question a couple of weeks ago and I did not
see any response. The AMA cycle will be two years, beginning in odd
numbered years. The FAI cycle is also two years, but starting on even
numbered years. How are we going to handle judging
certification?</DIV><BR><BR>Bob Kane<BR><A
href="mailto:getterflash@yahoo.com">getterflash@yahoo.com</A>
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