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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Jerry:<BR>I don't know if it is in print yet or
not. That was one of the major changes that came about when AMA held a
meeting of Contest Board Chairman a few months back. There were other
changes as well, but going back to a 2-year cycle will help us
greatly.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>You might send Steve Kaluf an e-mail to see if it
is on the AMA website somewhere....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Tony Stillman<BR>Radio South<BR>3702 N. Pace Blvd.<BR>Pensacola, FL
32505<BR>1-800-962-7802<BR><A
href="http://www.radiosouthrc.com">www.radiosouthrc.com</A></DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=JAStebbins@worldnet.att.net
href="mailto:JAStebbins@worldnet.att.net">Jerry Stebbins</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, May 11, 2004 5:41 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Rules Proposals Final
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Tony, I looked all over the AMA website, and
could not find any info about this change. Even their 2005 cycle info is 3
years. What am I missing/where can I find it?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Jerry</FONT></DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=tony@radiosouthrc.com
href="mailto:tony@radiosouthrc.com">tony@radiosouthrc.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, May 11, 2004 2:06
PM</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>John:<BR><BR>One thing that might help you a
little is that AMA has gone back to the 2-year cycle.... That means in
2007 we can look forward to a new sequence, once one is proposed when the
next cycle starts later this year...</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>Tony Stillman<BR>Radio South<BR>3702 N. Pace Blvd.<BR>Pensacola, FL
32505<BR>1-800-962-7802<BR><A
href="http://www.radiosouthrc.com">www.radiosouthrc.com</A></DIV>
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<A title=johnferrell@earthlink.net
href="mailto:johnferrell@earthlink.net">John Ferrell</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, May 11, 2004 1:55
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Rules Proposals Final
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I am disappointed at the prospect of flying
the same maneuvers in the Sportsman/intermediate and Advanced classes for
the next three years but I suppose it will all work out. Them who
get tired of it will move on, the Masters & Fai will continue.
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>However, I am acquainted with all but three
of the Contest Board members and I feel they must have had reasons for
voting as they did. I hope those reasons were for the good of all.
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>At any rate, what you see is what we got. The
time for bickering is past. Clearly, the AMA wants direct communications
rather than the assistance of the NSRCA and in the future I expect we need
to all send them the detailed communications and let them deal with it.
Failure to endorse the survey is a simple statement that we are not
allowed to play in their sandbox.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The proposals are at <A
href="http://www.modelaircraft.org/Comp/2005rulesproposals.htm">http://www.modelaircraft.org/Comp/2005rulesproposals.htm</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>If you compare the T&L sequences with
FAI's you will see they are not near as rigid.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Note there is no longer a penalty for an
aborted takeoff(whatever the reason), and no need to call the maneuver.
The need to call the landing is removed as well. I hate to show my
ignorance in public but I am still trying to figure out what "upwind
and downwind markers" are. In this district we normally mark the boxes,
the centers and the landing zones. If the terrain is rugged, sometimes the
box markers are pretty close on one side, and not so close on the
other.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>John Ferrell <BR><A
href="http://DixieNC.US">http://DixieNC.US</A><BR></DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=vanputte@cox.net href="mailto:vanputte@cox.net">Ron Van
Putte</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, May 10, 2004 10:36
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Rules Proposals Final
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<DIV><BR></DIV>John Fuqua asked me to forward the following to the NSRCA
discussion list.<BR><BR>Ron Van Putte<BR><BR>Begin forwarded
message:<BR><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE><B><?color><?param 0000,0000,0000>From: <?/color></B>"John
Fuqua" <<A
href="mailto:johnfuqua@gdsys.net">johnfuqua@gdsys.net</A>><BR><B><?color><?param 0000,0000,0000>Date:
<?/color></B>May 10, 2004 9:09:23 PM CDT<BR><B><?color><?param 0000,0000,0000>To: <?/color></B>"Ron Van
Putte" <<A
href="mailto:vanputte@cox.net">vanputte@cox.net</A>><BR><B><?color><?param 0000,0000,0000>Subject:
<?/color>RE: rules proposals final result<BR></B><BR><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?color><?param 0000,0000,FFFD><?smaller>Please
pass on to the group that the Board is an AMA Board not a NSRCA
Board. If we were an NSRCA Board Ron Van Putte's proposal on the
annex system would not have been rejected by the AMA Excutive
Council. While I respect the NSRCA survey and look at the
results I represent AMA District V not NSRCA District 3. Same
for the other Board members. Just as the Board is not in lock
step with me, or anybody else for that matter, the Board is not in
lock step with the NSRCA nor should it be. Each District member
must feel out his District. If he gets input from NSRCA members
from his District than all the better. Just for the record I
received zero, nada, 0 written or email inputs from my District
members on these proposals. Others in my District have talked to
me and there was no clear consensus one way or the other leaving me to
vote my feelings.<?/smaller><?/color><?/fontfamily><BR><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?color><?param 0000,0000,FFFD><?smaller><?/smaller><?/color><?/fontfamily> <BR><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?color><?param 0000,0000,FFFD><?smaller>I
submitted the takeoff and landing proposal, again, having had another
of my district members submit it the last cycle where it failed.
Just like flying by class vice frequency of some years ago, some ideas
take time to develop. I think the proposal is superior to what
we have now for a lot of reasons. Go look at the rationale in
the proposal to see the issues. One last thought. If
takeoff and landing were aerobatic manuevers, the FAA would require
all airline passengers to wear parachutes.<?/smaller><?/color><?/fontfamily><BR> <BR><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?color><?param 0000,0000,FFFD><?smaller>John
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