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Mark:<br>
Just underscores what I've said. Pattern is run by AMA, period. NSRCA
has no visible influence, apparently, or our survey wouldn't have been
ignored.<br>
Bet the response on another survey would be great! Why waste the
time? Oh, Well.<br>
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Atwood, Mark wrote:<br>
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<div><span class="668380514-13052004"><font face="Arial" size="2">Just
to clarify...it's AMA district VP...not NSRCA district VP. Which I
have to admit is awkward...since most of my pattern interaction is with
NSCRA district 4...many of whom are NOT in AMA district 3.</font></span></div>
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<div><span class="668380514-13052004"><font face="Arial" size="2">-Mark</font></span></div>
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face="Tahoma" size="2">-----Original Message-----<br>
<b>From:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org">discussion-request@nsrca.org</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org">mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org</a>]<b>On Behalf Of </b>Dean Pappas<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 13, 2004 9:53 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> *SPAM* [SPAM] RE: [SPAM] RE: Rules Proposals Final
Vote<br>
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<div><span class="744213913-13052004"><font face="Arial"
color="#0000ff" size="2">Hi Bill,</font></span></div>
<div><span class="744213913-13052004"><font face="Arial"
color="#0000ff" size="2">The district VP appoints the CB members.
Fortunately in my district the CB member is with the program, so I
don't have to yell. He's even a fun guy ...</font></span></div>
<div><span class="744213913-13052004"><font face="Arial"
color="#0000ff" size="2">Dean</font></span></div>
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<b>From:</b> Bill Glaze [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:billglaze@triad.rr.com">mailto:billglaze@triad.rr.com</a>]<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, May 12, 2004 5:44 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [SPAM] RE: Rules Proposals Final Vote<br>
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Dean:<br>
Out of curiosity..........will hounding our districe VE's do any good?
they have no vote,as far as I know. All they can do, as I understand
it, is to offer their opinions to the CB, same as you and me. Am
Imisisng something here? Wouldn't be the first time!<G><br>
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Bill Glaze<br>
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Dean Pappas wrote:<br>
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<div><span class="882022220-12052004"><font face="Arial"
color="#0000ff" size="2">So let's publish the voting record in the
K-Factor. It's only useful if we all go hound our AMA dstrict VPs as a
result. </font></span></div>
<div><span class="882022220-12052004"><font face="Arial"
color="#0000ff" size="2">Dean</font></span></div>
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face="Tahoma" size="2">-----Original Message-----<br>
<b>From:</b> Del Rykert [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="mailto:drykert@localnet.com">mailto:drykert@localnet.com</a>]<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, May 12, 2004 2:26 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Rules Proposals Final Vote<br>
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<div><strong><font face="MS Sans Serif" size="2">Ed....</font></strong></div>
<div><strong><font face="MS Sans Serif" size="2"> Sounds
great ... <u><font color="#ff0000">BUT... </font></u></font></strong></div>
<div><strong><font face="MS Sans Serif" size="2">We have been
down this time a few times before over the years. Just different
magnitudes and with internet is more open forum for discussion. Some
members have a different agenda and follow what they feel is important.
</font></strong></div>
<div><strong><font face="MS Sans Serif" size="2"> My
suggestion is to make those that vote and control the issues that guide
this SPORT have their voting record posted on this forum or on the
NSRCA web site for us to review and question the motives behind their
decisions. Sort of like the ribbing that goes on for sandbaggers to
move up. It would either drive the people underground or out of
office. Both might be better than keep repeating history. This
is only MHO as lame as it may be. </font></strong></div>
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del <br>
NSRCA - 473</font></strong></div>
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<a title="divesplat@yahoo.com"
href="mailto:divesplat@yahoo.com">Ed Deaver</a> </div>
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Tuesday, May 11, 2004 11:11 PM</div>
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RE: Rules Proposals Final Vote</div>
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<div>Having read all the posting on the list on this
subject. Several things are clear to me and this is simply my take on
things.</div>
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<div>1) The vote is over. What's done is done and that's it.</div>
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<div>2) Some people are mad some are not(human nature is
such that usually only the upset ones voice an opinion ie lobbyiest
success in our capital)</div>
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<div>3) Their is nothing at this time to be achieved by
continuing to persue th negatives.</div>
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<div>4) We can however learn from this experience. More
emphasis has to be placed on calling our AMA District Reps. A formal
survey is only a document and can be scewed in any which way, same as a
phone poll. We are again at, the membership must contact the District
Reps to give input.</div>
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<div>5) As with most activities or memberships, a very few
are passionate and highly motivated.</div>
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<div>6) Lets do our best to accept these changes, read not
agree with or like, but accept and work towards the next rules cycle
where someone may add a snap into the new Intermediate schedule and if
so wished, add a new rules proposal to add scoring of L/TO.</div>
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<div>Just my opinion.</div>
<div>ed<br>
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<b><i>Ron Van Putte <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:vanputte@cox.net"><vanputte@cox.net></a></i></b>
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<div>What follows is an exchange of e-mails between Lance
Van Nostrand, the <br>
List, John Fuqua and me. If it comes through as presented, John's <br>
comments are in blue.<br>
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Ron Van Putte<br>
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From: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:johnfuqua@gdsys.net">johnfuqua@gdsys.net</a><br>
Subject: RE: Rules Proposals Final Vote<br>
Date: May 11, 2004 8:50:34 PM CDT<br>
To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:vanputte@cox.net">vanputte@cox.net</a><br>
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From: Ron Van Putte </div>
<div><strong><font face="MS Sans Serif" size="2"> **
Klipped 4 reposting.. **</font></strong></div>
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