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<DIV><STRONG><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2>Using contestants as judges has
many ugly sides. I remember when some prominent fliers would register late for
NATS to get out of judging. I remember being told by a prominent flier he
didn't need to attend the judging seminar at the NATS as he preferred to go out
and practice being it was elective. Crying shame we have to
legislate answers to many issues that the ugly side of people present.
Bottom line in my mind is honor and character sure doesn't mean what it
once did. </FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2> Is inexcusable
for anyone to retaliate while judging. What do we do though. Ban them from
competing? It is unfair for Tony and anyone in that position to have that
dilemma. </FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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del
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NSRCA - 473</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=tony@radiosouthrc.com href="mailto:tony@radiosouthrc.com">Tony
Stillman</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, April 14, 2004 2:53
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Defensive judging to avoid
retaliation. Are you guilty? </DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Mike:<BR><BR>It can be even worse than what you
described..... I have had this problem when I judged someone critically,
and they then put out the word not to buy stuff from Radio
South.....</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>So, as a manufacturer, should I DEMAND that I not
be required to judge, or just sit back and give out faulty scores so as to not
hurt my business? </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>Tony Stillman<BR>Radio South<BR>3702 N. Pace Blvd.<BR>Pensacola, FL
32505<BR>1-800-962-7802<BR><A
href="http://www.radiosouthrc.com">www.radiosouthrc.com</A></DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=mups1953@yahoo.com href="mailto:mups1953@yahoo.com">mike
mueller</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, April 14, 2004 11:39
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Defensive judging to avoid
retaliation. Are you guilty? </DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>Ok, this is the worst part of the problem with judging snaps, if you
take a stand and decide to be the "snap policeman" then you run the risk of
judges retaliation. Say your Bob the relatively new Advanced flyer and
your judging Joe superstar FAI guy. He executes a snap that's thought by
most to be pretty good because Joe performed it. You know better and think
it didn't show a proper break in pitch, so you 0 the maneuver. Dude are you
kidding me? Word get's out that you gave Joe superstar a 0 and you have
a bullseye on your back that may effect how others are going to judge you.
Your stuck in the middle of a tough competition with your arch rival and
can't afford the inevitable results. Who wants a reputation as a so called
jerky judge especially one that can't fly nearly as well as "Joe"?</DIV>
<DIV> Don't think for a second that this doesn't happen and happen all
the time. Thus you get the guys that take the "SAFE" route and scores 7 and
8's on everything even though you know better. Then there's the guy that's
competing against you judging in a defensive manner. Very few guys are
willing to step on toes because they are worried about the consequences.
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<DIV> I hate contestant judging because it's vanilla. Back when
pattern was King we didn't allow it. When you held a contest you provided
judges that didn't fly. In so many ways it was better. Given all that were
stuck with it and it ain't changing anytime soon because we lack the numbers
that we used to have. </DIV>
<DIV> Houston we have a problem!!!!!!!!</DIV>
<DIV> PS: This is not meant to hurt Joe's feelings, so don't take it
too personally please. This is what makes judging snaps too hard for most of
us.</DIV>
<DIV> Oh ya am I guilty? In the past I would admit that it has played
in to my thinking process. I wonder how many of you would admit to this
fault.</DIV>
<DIV> Have
a nice day!! Mike</DIV>
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