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<DIV><SPAN class=903431513-02072004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Hi
Don,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=903431513-02072004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I am
pleased to see you confirming some of my long held statements about aileron
servos. At each step of development, when a servo with better centering power
became available, I have noticed better loop tracking, especially in square
corners. If I used a 1-piece wing, I would consider an old
fashioned linkage where lifting loads are not carried by serv torque,
at all. This has all gotten more noticeable as ailerons have grown in size:
mostly in chord. </FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=903431513-02072004><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>I also haven't really seen a change in how much expo I use.
As strong as rudder servos now are, they still blow back a great deal. If you
ever do tests with an aerodynamic counterbalance on the rudder, be ready to
change all your rudder throws except for the spin! For some neat reading, try
"the great rudder experiment" at <A
href="http://www.mindspring.com/~rellis2/rcpattrn/rudder.htm">http://www.mindspring.com/~rellis2/rcpattrn/rudder.htm</A> </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=903431513-02072004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>This
is interesting stuff.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=903431513-02072004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Regards to All,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=903431513-02072004> <FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Dean P.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> discussion-request@nsrca.org
[mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Don
Szczur<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, July 01, 2004 11:51 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
discussion@nsrca.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Digital Servos vs analog servos on
Ailerons<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>At the urging of Dave, I have finally switched to
digital servos on the ailerons. After flying analog servos for 25 years,
it was explained to me that digital servos on the ailerons help looping and
radius of maneuvers. Here is my assessment.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The baseline servos were JR 7005.
The digital servos changed to are JR 9411 servos.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Loops and lines. The first thing I noticed
was that, just as Dave mentioned, loops and loop segments are more
locked-in. The 9411 servos made the wings more stable, requiring less
effort on the maneuvers involving loop segments (most all of the
maneuvers). Analysis- why this occurs- the theory is that during loops,
wing panels generate quite a bit more lift. since the digital servos
lock, and hold center much more agressively than analog servos (holding
torque) this provides very little give in the ailerons during the loop.
Regardless, its a noted difference and clear advantage of these
servos.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Rolls and rolling segments. This part of
the analysis was quite a bit more complex. Clearly the digital servos
have more speed and resolution than the analog servos. The holding
torque and contol surface power requires that control throw be reduced to
attain the same roll rate. However, the analog servos would "blow back"
at high speed, but stay deflected at lower speeds. Incredibly, the
advantage to this is a more constant roll rate- independent of
speed. The ailerons (roll rate) would feel more the same at
low speed (like the top of an immelman, loop or vertical line).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Snap rolls. This is what I call the "rubber
band" effect. The analog servos would deflect quite a bit during snap
rolls, requiring one to "unload" the snap (start coming out of the ailerons
before the snap is complete). Otherwise, the snap would be
over-rotated. Actually, this was not too hard to get used to, since its
a very consistent effect. With digital servos, however, there is much
less deflection and thus a more "honest" snap roll. It does snap
differently, but the exit is much cleaner (or easier to have a clean
exit).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Exponential. Here is another item of
interest. My initial perception was that I would have to add additional
expo to get the same feel for the digital servos. Since control thow was
reduced (moved in one notch on the servo arm) there was still more roll rate
at full stick deflection (since the ailerons are no longer blowing back like
the analog servos), but not as much roll around neutral. I actually had
to cut my expo in half. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>So, the overall analysis is that the digital
servos provide greater stability of flight, more consistent snap exits
and loop segments that are more locked in. Analog provide more
control roll authority at slower speed and more forgiveness with shaky hands
(the rubber band effect does dampen shaky thumbs). Conclusion- overall
benefits outweigh analog servos- favor the use of digitals. Will stay
with the 9411's.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Don</FONT> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>